Hearing-loss. That’s the label I’m going to use for this post. I am going to shy away from the usual suspects (Deaf, deaf, hard of hearing, late-deafened, oral, ASL, etc) because this obsession occurs across the entire spectrum of the deaf community. What is this obsession about? Those who can speak and those who can’t. Or don’t. Or won’t.
Measuring the ability of a person with hearing loss to speak is akin to the brown paper bag test. Black folks, I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. For those not in the know, the test was to see if your skin color was lighter than a regular brown paper bag. If it was, then you were more acceptable to white society. If it wasn’t, go to the back of the bus, thank you very much.
In the eyes of the hearing society, those who can speak and articulate well vocally are more acceptable than those who bark, yowl (as a popular deaf blogger would say) or squeal. The following is a recent exchange taken verbatim from the Rants and Raves section of the Washington DC Craigslist’s website:
I hooked up with a deaf chick I was talking with (actually writing with) at a bar this afternoon and took her back to my place after a few drinks. It is funny banging a deaf chick because of the noises they make when they are vocal. I was laughing so hard I had to do her doggie style so she would not get offended.
I talked to my roommate a while after she left and he said ‘holy [*%] man… were you slaughtering a pig in there or what?’
I love those GU girls Ha-ha.
Then one person’s response to the above:
I know this isn’t right, but your post made me bust out laughing!! Just hilarious!!! Your roommate is off the chain…lol…he knows he’s dead wrong for that! :) Gosh darn, hope my kids don’t turn out w/ no limbs and no eye sockets! :{
Guess what? How about I rip the eyes out of the respondent’s sockets! That would make him/her squeal like a pig. Needless to say, I was incensed when I saw that dialogue making fun of the unsuspecting victim’s voice. I was reminded of a movie I watched some years ago. It was called “In the Company of Men.” I’m not going to summarize what the movie is about (that’s what Netflix is for!) but I do remember how the hearing guy made fun of the deaf woman’s voice with his friend. I’m paraphrasing here from memory: “She talks like a dolphin…with clicks and squeals.” Shame.
By now, you’re probably wondering what is my deal. Yes, I have the ability to speak and yowl with the best of them. My favorite class during the early years of my education was speech therapy. I would wait with bated breath until the clock struck on the hour that indicated it was time for speech practice.
I would run— not walk— to the classroom that was equipped with various instruments, including a lovely see-through prototype of the inside of the mouth. The prototype had a flesh-like tongue completed with life-like tastebuds, designed to show me how to properly position my tongue for certain (and pesky) consonants and vowels. The hours I spent in speech training were the best.
**cough cough**
Ok, so I was not crazy about speech therapy at all. Kleenex was in business because of me constantly throwing down the tissues on the floor in defiance. “No, I will not enunciate that s!” However, I must give the sessions the utmost credit for the speaking ability I have today. I’ve gotten compliments— “I thought you were from another country! Your speech is that good!” to insults— “You sound like you’re talking through thick cotton balls.” Regardless, I continue to yowl because I can.
Judging solely on the ability to vocalize, do people with hearing loss who can speak are better or more intelligent than those who do not speak? In my opinion, nope. Nada. Zippo. I’ve corrected hearing people who assume because I can talk that I’m somehow “better.” If I had a brilliant Einstein-like scientist next to me that chooses not to talk for whatever reasons, I’m seemingly smarter? That’s not how the world turns.
It’s typical for the hearing society to stereotype by speaking ability, and we are constantly fighting against that perspective. However, I’m puzzled as to why we, the people with hearing loss, continue to equate the ability to talk with intelligence and capability. That’s like comparing apples and oranges. Just plain bananas. Why do we rip each other up over the ability to speak? Should that really count so much in the deaf community? Don’t think it doesn’t go on now. Just skim through DeafDC.com and you’ll see this monster rear its ugly head. A very recent example comes from the Davila Chosen as Gallaudet Interim President blog written by Chris and Allison Kaftan.
A commentor that goes by the username “C” said, “You cannot have a president who cannot speak vocally. Davila has to communicate with the hearing Congress, oral deaf students, and the like.” Great. So according to C, I have a better chance to serenade Congress to fork over federal dollars to Gallaudet. Sure, sign me up! The fact that I know diddly-squat about school administration and the like is of little consequence.
Allison Kaftan sarcastically retorted to C’s comment: “Well, congratulations. Everybody who can’t speak perfectly, sit down and die. You’re worthless and not human.”
Guess I’ll have to sit down and die. Wonder what will be inscribed on my headstone…
“Here lies Vikki…still squealing for attention”
Ah, better not tempt fate. **Knocking on wood**
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Yeah, a lot of frat boy types out there just love to make fun of deaf women’s vocalizations during sex. It’s a common and well known phenomenon, unfortunately.
What, hearing women don’t vocalize during sex? My hearing female friends have all said that they like to be loud in bed.
As the story above, as other comments I’ve seen, hearing guys can and do make fun of deaf women’s vocalizations during sex. Yowling like an animal was one of the milder comments. Maybe hearing women are a little bit more restrained in their, um, excitement? Who knows? I have no empirical data to assist me on this since I’m a deaf guy….
While it is possible hearing women are a little bit more restrained, has it occurred to you that some deaf people may be self conscious about using their voice in the presence of a hearing individual? So, naturally, those with self consciousness are not sure what they sound that they may choose to restrain.
That reminds me of the time when I was with a mixed group of friends at a bar, and was introduced to a man who, as well as being a psychologist, is also a certified sexual therapist. I decided I just had to ask him the question that had been nagging at me for many years …
“Do hearing people talk while they’re having sex?”
(by the way, his response was to laugh and inform me that hearies have been known to talk, scream, moan, and make reference to the Almighty from time to time…)
Ah, but this begs the question, just how different is this “deaf yowl”? Is it more primitive sounding? And have hearing people somehow been trained to twitter in a certain way?
*twitters* *squeaks*
I assume that’s what hearing people sound like—dolphins.
Dang, is that what Dr. Ruth discusses during those sex shows of hers? How to twitter in bed without making your partner laugh?
Great post, welcome aboard.
Thanks, David! Glad you liked it.
Why we still obsess with the pathological definition of our Db (hearing) level?
Whatever you wish to define yourself who and what you are, Vikki. :)
RLM
RLM,
I have no problem with defining who and what I am, Thanks. The reason why I used the “hearing loss” phrasing was because I didn’t want to exclude anyone since this perspection encompasses the entire deaf community. I figured “hearing loss” was a better term to use than “hearing-impaired.”
Sex jokes aside…
On a more serious note, thanks for a great post, Vikki.
I happen to be one of those Deafies who does have above-average speech skills, and I’m always being commented on it…and left squirming under such compliments and struggling to decide how to handle such. I ***know*** they mean well, but at the same time I do feel that awkwardness that the only thing they are in fact measuring me by is how intelligible my speech is (although I have gotten those “are you a foreigner?” comments on a number of occasions).
I have dealt with that speech equals intelligence attitude, even when in the company of Deaf individuals far more brilliant than I am, who get virtually ignored simply because of that “can’t, don’t or won’t.”
Thanks for putting what I have felt for a long time into words. I’m sending the link for this blog to my hearing friends - maybe it will get some of them thinking…
I cosign on everything you said, Virginia. Heaven forbid if I catch a cold! If intelligible speech was in proportion to how smart a person is, then that means today I must be very stupid. **blowing nose**
Vikki, the Craigslist posting was nothing but a total hoax. Why? I wrote this for the heck of it to see what comes out of this fiction. But I know this kind of banging scenario is commonplace. Yeah, funny noises made by both genders.
What really gets me is when DEAF people think that being able to speak well equates intelligence. I used to interpret for 3 students: 2 deaf males and a hard of hearing female. One time the males didn’t want to turn in their paper until their female peer had had a chance to read it. When I asked them why, they said because she was hard of hearing. They equated her ability to speak with good writing skills. Little did they know that their English was FAR better than hers.
I find this odd…I’m a deaf women who can actually speak fluently…but I absolutely will not make noises when having sex. None! Zip! And it kind of freaks out some of the hearing partners I’ve had.
So go figure.
But to the main point of the article, yes, it drives me crazy the equation of speaking ability with intelligence. I mean, come ON. Bush can speak! That should shatter that notion right then and there…
*laughs* yeah. I don’t speak fluently, but hearing guys are always crestfallen to find that I’m quiet both outside and inside bed. :P Pretty amusing…
***laugh*** Maybe we should set up our own club - “Quiet Deafies Who Sleep With Hearies”…
The amusing thing for me has been the hearing men who afterwards want to engage in “pillow talk” and get a little frustrated with some of the “communication issues” involved with such - the difficulties in lipreading someone with the lights out, or when you’ve got your head on their chest, for example!
:-)
If I had to vocalize, I’d rather put earplugs on the hearing person’s ears LOL “Wear these earplugs or forget sex!” ;-)
I cracked up the minute I read your comment about Bush. How true!
LOL. I enjoyed this article for the first time in a long time — DeafDC.com is famous for lame-assed articles but this one is refreshingly great.
I could not stop grinning until the end. Thanks, Vikki.
Oh, yeah, I’m that “popular deaf blogger” who called hearing people yowling.
I knew of some hearing gay men who wanted to bag deaf gay men only. Why? They said they loved hearing the primitive, raw grunts of Deaf guys in bed.
That made me very self-conscious to an extent.
Cheers,
R-
Ridor,
You’re right…I got that “yowling” phrase from your blog. Giving credit where credit is due. ;-)
Vikki ~
I feel the need to apologize…I know yours is a “serious” post on the frustrations of a society that tends to equate speech with intelligence. As I stated earlier, I think you have done a great job of expressing the feelings that go along with such frustrations.
But of course…we had to go off on the whole topic of “noisy boinking,” didn’t we???
Well, what can I say? Sometimes talking about sex is nearly as much fun as engaging in it.
SOMETIMES.
wanted to comment on your first part regarding use of “hearing loss” to categorize “all of us”….Even that has a problem. Many of us never “lost” our hearing. We could say for those who became Deaf after birth that they gained visual awareness and a great community! Also, “hearing loss” is negative. Why focus on what is the least for us? Why not focus on what we have gained so much because of our shared “physical condition”.
We need to think how to “frame” (or rather “re-frame”) how we talk about ourselves to ourselves as well as to the outside world… Consider the “mute” concept. After all it is the “deaf mutes” that created, built and carried our noblest gift, Sign Language, throughout the years. It is the “deaf mutes” that are the HEART of any Deaf community and the development of their Sign Languages. Without the “deaf mutes”, Sign Language tend to disintegrate and fall into disgrace from lack of need for clarity and expansion to meet their EVERYDAY needs. I would say deaf mutes are the most “hated” and “disrespected” among us all because they force the whole world to stop and think and wonder. It is “deaf mutes” that have Oralism building the dividing walls among Deaf people….by putting the thoughts in our minds that we must go as far as possible from being “deaf mutes”, that “deaf mutes” are so awful and deprived that to even use the word “mute” is horrible. So as a result, we evaluate each other based on our speech and hearing status as determined by Oralism and Audiograms to “measure” each other’s “intelligence” because that’s what we were taught in schools subtly and/or obviously (MOST of Deaf people’s education the past 126 years from residential schools to mainstreamed classes is guilty)….and it is no surprise that the “deaf mutes” start building their own “measuring tools” to evaluate people’s ATTITUDE as exhibited by their behaviors, words, and signing status…to determine between trustworthy people who love and respect us and people we must avoid or watch out who apparently are out to get “deaf mutes” off the face of the earth.
So what term would you recommend using?
While I do think you raise some good points in regards to how we talk about ourselves and the language we use, I personally didn’t have an issue with Vikki’s use of “hearing loss” in the context of this blog…
“Many of us never “lost” our hearing.” What do you mean by that statement? We did not “lost” it and I think it is not what “loss” is referring to. Let’s look at the definition provided by dictionary.com
http://dictionary.reference.co.....ing%20loss
Loss in the word, hearing loss, means lack of to make a good use of the sense (of hearing).
I am fine with the word.
Ella:
See my response to RLM at the beginning of the comment section about my reason for using the phrase “hearing loss.” I do agree with some of the points you’ve brought up. However, I think some of the “measuring tools” that the “deaf mutes” use to evaluate attitudes sometime go too far to the point where they may just isolate themselves further.
Thank you, Ella, for sharing this with us. I was disturbed by it myself and do not agree with it at all.
My entire life, hearing impaired or hearing loss are foreign to me as pathological view of being deaf is. We should focus on what all of us, deaf people, have in common and that would be something visual-related rather than focusing on what we lack.
I reject labels created by those based on our lack of hearing.
Hello, I am deafie. Are you still hearing-loser?
Uh, no to both descriptions.
So are you a hearing-impairmentizer?
Uh, are you an idiot? Before you call me an audist, there are idiots both Deaf and hearing.
You certainly seem to qualify either way.
Have a nice day!
Really, that explains why you are the hard-of-hearizer…
absolutely fabulous blog - best one i’ve read in a long time (and thats not to insult any others). really appreciated your analogy to the brown paper bag test. hope to see you on here more often.
and just to add on the whole “speaking test” - what drives me nuts is trying to explain to hearing folks just why some deaf people choose not to speak. just saying “they don’t want to” doesn’t seem to work :)
Sex discussions used to be a taboo and now people are comfortable sharing their stories. It shows us the world is changing and most people are becoming open-minded. This can be a positive thing as to help the population on preventing sexual transmitted diseases through communication.
Some parts of Africa believed having sex with a virgin can cure AIDS. This is scarey because inaccurate information can lead to genocide.
Disease does not lead to genocide. It just leads to a large number of deaths. Here’s the definition of genocide:
Main Entry: geno·cide
Pronunciation: ‘je-n&-”sId
Function: noun
: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
In order for AIDs to be considered genocide, it must be willfully perpetrated against a large group of people but it is not. It is perpetrated through ignorance. Now, one can debate whether lack of education about sexually transmitted diseases leads to genocide, but that’s a very FAR reach.
way to denigrate an attempt to colorfully express an idea. Granted, sometimes I feel like a keeper of our lexicon, but there are more diplomatic ways.
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Aside from Noelle, this seems to be happening elsewhere in DeafDC. Shane recently defended his use of radical by citing definitions from a dictionary. WAD (#54118) cites the dictionary in an argument on the usage of loss.
Get over it.
Stuckless’s blog on labels (actually, CODA experiences) was intriguing. Vikki’s choice of “hearing loss” was interesting. Discussions on labels invite introspection… whereas discussions on word usage imply righteousness, and predicated on vocabulary at that. Give me a break. Here at DeafDC we’re giving life to a dialogue on ideas, not words.
One of the entertaining blogs thus far on DeafDC.
I usually tell hearies I refuse to talk because my voice sounds like sh*t. They would laugh and understand. That’s partly why I want my son with CI to speak intelligibly and at least sound like a foreigner, isn’t that cool? Too bad if Deafies disagree with me but its the Hearing World whether they like it or not. SMILE.
Speaking of “deaf accents”, you should see this hilarious TV show - “My Name is Earl” where Joy (Jamie Pressley) constantly ridicules her deaf attorney (Marlee Matlin) about her accent.
At the end of one episode when Joy was pleading Matlin to represent her in her child custody case, Matlin finally agreed to represent Joy. She said: “Okay, Joy. I will represent you.” Joy replied back: “Hahahahahaha! Only if you could hear the way you sound. Hahahahaha. But, that’s all right. I still like you.” I laughed so hard that I almost wet my pants.
The next episode or two had a brief scene of both of them - this time they were discussing about Joy’s anger management issues. In the beginning, Joy was in the attorney’s office and in a quick state of rage, she grabbed the interpreter at the throat and Matlin separated them, shouting: “Joy, you can’t do that in court!” Joy burst out in laughter and replied: “Hahahahaha! Your deaf accent gets me every time! I feel so much better!” I couldn’t stop laughing for days.
The point is that yes, it’s true many profoundly deaf people don’t sound normal when they speak. Years of speech therapy would help a little, but they will never sound exactly the same as hearing folks.
It’s a fact of life, but if we accept it with some Boratesque humor, then it wouldn’t be so bad. Hey, I know we could even write a book on how do deaf people sound when they speak, cry, grunt or whatever.
Hearing person: “How do you say constitution?”
Deaf person: “Consoo. Consoo.” See?
I don’t get off as quickly when my partner screams out, “Oh baby! Yes, do me harder!” Give me all the screams, yowls and whatever primitive sounds come out of your mouth. Some of us actually find it sexy.
I quite agree. I like the vocalizations made by women in the throes of orgasm. I would be seriously concerned or puzzled if the woman were unusually quiet during sex.
So that means you wouldn’t be interested in the members of the “Quiet Deafies Who Sleep With Hearies” club that was proposed earlier, right? ;-P
It all depends!!! ;-)
Spool…
Check out my pic on my own blogsite (which you can get to by clicking on my name) under the blog titled “Meet the Wrench” and get back to me… ;-)
Very nice outfit!
I am a mother of a deaf child and i feel digusted to read about that horrid man making fun out of the deaf woman he “hooked ” up with..What a sad person he is!
It’s typical for the hearing society to stereotype by speaking ability, and we are constantly fighting against that perspective. However, I’m puzzled as to why we, the people with hearing loss, continue to equate the ability to talk with intelligence and capability.
On occasion this is why I play dumb(-mute) whenever I cross paths with an ignorant person who isn’t either hearing-loss-friendly or mindlessly judgmental and prefers somewhat audist ways of daily life…. I know I ain’t the only one! ;) (I tried to steer clear of labels but this was inevitable.)
By the way, I’ve been commended for my writing style (or lack thereof on second thought) because it has a strong “speaking” quality - I’ve told how much my blog posts are appreciated in part because they sound like I’m speaking out loud directly to readers. Rather interesting, eh?