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	<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/</link>
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		<title>By: DeafNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84987</link>
		<dc:creator>DeafNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84987</guid>
		<description>Yeah I meant Romans.. Thanks for the interesting history info btw..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I meant Romans.. Thanks for the interesting history info btw..</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Heuer</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84981</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Heuer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84981</guid>
		<description>Good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point.</p>
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		<title>By: walk a mile in my shoes</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84938</link>
		<dc:creator>walk a mile in my shoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84938</guid>
		<description>dude- its "when in rome, do as the romans do." 

Romania was a province of the Roman Empire. It was called Dacia. When the powers that be formed the country of Romania, they blended the two names Roma and Dacia into Romania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude- its &#8220;when in rome, do as the romans do.&#8221; </p>
<p>Romania was a province of the Roman Empire. It was called Dacia. When the powers that be formed the country of Romania, they blended the two names Roma and Dacia into Romania.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84912</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84912</guid>
		<description>Chris, I agree with you that the trait of insularity is not unique to any one group of people.  But that is not a cause for relief.  People who criticize the Deaf world as insular are not going to stick around and constructively change the Deaf community -- these critics are going to decamp and take up associating with cosmopolitan hearing people.

Insular people hurt themselves, whether they're deaf or hearing.  I doubt that the people quoted in Shane's blog will create many opportunities for themselves if their general conduct is of the same caliber as their trenchant criticism of immigrants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I agree with you that the trait of insularity is not unique to any one group of people.  But that is not a cause for relief.  People who criticize the Deaf world as insular are not going to stick around and constructively change the Deaf community &#8212; these critics are going to decamp and take up associating with cosmopolitan hearing people.</p>
<p>Insular people hurt themselves, whether they&#8217;re deaf or hearing.  I doubt that the people quoted in Shane&#8217;s blog will create many opportunities for themselves if their general conduct is of the same caliber as their trenchant criticism of immigrants.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84911</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84911</guid>
		<description>Sacha,

Although it is not the focus of my blog, I also agree with some of the opinions of some commenters. The borders need to be shored up, laws enforced, etc. Illegal immigrants will continue to be a thorn on our side when our borders resemble a patchwork of swiss cheese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sacha,</p>
<p>Although it is not the focus of my blog, I also agree with some of the opinions of some commenters. The borders need to be shored up, laws enforced, etc. Illegal immigrants will continue to be a thorn on our side when our borders resemble a patchwork of swiss cheese.</p>
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		<title>By: DeafNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84909</link>
		<dc:creator>DeafNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84909</guid>
		<description>I'm glad they didn't pass the bill! WHEW! 

Naturalize 12 million ILLEGAL immigrants, many of whom who don't have a job, don't speak English, break many laws?? That's crazy!! I agree with those who oppose that bill, especially that I myself came here LEGALLY. 

I worked my ass off to become fluent in English (both spoken and  signed), get good quality education, have a decent job. I respect the local laws and pay TAXES. TAXES! I won't let them spend a cent from my hard earned taxes to those illegals!

Not just that, it's been taking me 3 years already for me to wait to become a citizen. I passed the interview and tests (in English and American History) with flying colors, and yet they are telling me that they haven't finished my process as they need to finalize my name check. So I won't appreciate if they decide to naturalize those lawbreakers who take advantage of us while making me wait forever to get my citizenship.

I agree if immigrants want to live here, they should learn English and American history, get a job, obey the local laws, pay taxes, etc. I've seen enough Spanish around here and get annoyed with it. I hope there's a law to ban Spanish use in public - it can be used only at home.

There's a saying "When in Rome do as Romanians do." So if those people don't want to adapt to our environment, then that's their problem. They have no right to tell us to add Spanish translation (a waste of our hard earned tax money, too) or take advantage of welfare (this could be saved for Social Security, Medicare, etc. to be used for legal residents and citizens only). If they don't like our laws, they can go somewhere else - we have enough of our own problems here without them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad they didn&#8217;t pass the bill! WHEW! </p>
<p>Naturalize 12 million ILLEGAL immigrants, many of whom who don&#8217;t have a job, don&#8217;t speak English, break many laws?? That&#8217;s crazy!! I agree with those who oppose that bill, especially that I myself came here LEGALLY. </p>
<p>I worked my ass off to become fluent in English (both spoken and  signed), get good quality education, have a decent job. I respect the local laws and pay TAXES. TAXES! I won&#8217;t let them spend a cent from my hard earned taxes to those illegals!</p>
<p>Not just that, it&#8217;s been taking me 3 years already for me to wait to become a citizen. I passed the interview and tests (in English and American History) with flying colors, and yet they are telling me that they haven&#8217;t finished my process as they need to finalize my name check. So I won&#8217;t appreciate if they decide to naturalize those lawbreakers who take advantage of us while making me wait forever to get my citizenship.</p>
<p>I agree if immigrants want to live here, they should learn English and American history, get a job, obey the local laws, pay taxes, etc. I&#8217;ve seen enough Spanish around here and get annoyed with it. I hope there&#8217;s a law to ban Spanish use in public - it can be used only at home.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a saying &#8220;When in Rome do as Romanians do.&#8221; So if those people don&#8217;t want to adapt to our environment, then that&#8217;s their problem. They have no right to tell us to add Spanish translation (a waste of our hard earned tax money, too) or take advantage of welfare (this could be saved for Social Security, Medicare, etc. to be used for legal residents and citizens only). If they don&#8217;t like our laws, they can go somewhere else - we have enough of our own problems here without them.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Ketcham</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84905</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele Ketcham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84905</guid>
		<description>I know Shane was focusing on attitudes expressed by some people he provided as examples in his article, but there's another thing we all need to think about.

Our country cannot keep taking in immigrants constantly. We just don't have resources. Our resources aren't finite. Although I am descended from immigrants, I do recognize that a line has to be drawn at some point.

I mean, Bush got illegal immigrants Social Security?! Our Social Security barely covers our retirees, senior citizens, poor people, disabled people and deaf people as it is.

I am also disturbed by the trend towards giving illegal immigrants the right to vote. It practically makes citizenship meaningless. I sympathize with the plight of immigrants, but we just can't give them things that they are not entitled to. I can't help but realize that if we Americans were to go to another country, I highly doubt we would get as much from them as we're giving these immigrants in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Shane was focusing on attitudes expressed by some people he provided as examples in his article, but there&#8217;s another thing we all need to think about.</p>
<p>Our country cannot keep taking in immigrants constantly. We just don&#8217;t have resources. Our resources aren&#8217;t finite. Although I am descended from immigrants, I do recognize that a line has to be drawn at some point.</p>
<p>I mean, Bush got illegal immigrants Social Security?! Our Social Security barely covers our retirees, senior citizens, poor people, disabled people and deaf people as it is.</p>
<p>I am also disturbed by the trend towards giving illegal immigrants the right to vote. It practically makes citizenship meaningless. I sympathize with the plight of immigrants, but we just can&#8217;t give them things that they are not entitled to. I can&#8217;t help but realize that if we Americans were to go to another country, I highly doubt we would get as much from them as we&#8217;re giving these immigrants in America.</p>
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		<title>By: A Deaf Pundit</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84894</link>
		<dc:creator>A Deaf Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84894</guid>
		<description>Yeah, the immigrants 600 years ago didn't act nicely, but we can't go back in time and render justice on them, can we? 

There will always be narrow-minded people, and their bigotry should not be legislated into law. That would be abhorrent - but I do not believe having open borders is the answer to our problems. 

Not only that, but if you come in this country illegally, that tells me that you have no respect for the other laws America has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the immigrants 600 years ago didn&#8217;t act nicely, but we can&#8217;t go back in time and render justice on them, can we? </p>
<p>There will always be narrow-minded people, and their bigotry should not be legislated into law. That would be abhorrent - but I do not believe having open borders is the answer to our problems. </p>
<p>Not only that, but if you come in this country illegally, that tells me that you have no respect for the other laws America has.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84893</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84893</guid>
		<description>This newfound emphasis on "legal" immigration must be gratifying to the Native Americans.  Because all those Europeans who came in from 1492 onwards really didn't ask the Native Americans for permission to set foot in America.  Nor did those European immigrants act very nice, either.

Heck, since we're so concerned about doing things legally, people of European descent should vacate the Americas and let the indigenous peoples determine who, if anyone, should be legally allowed to come to this land.

I thought the immigration bill had become ridiculously complex, so that it wasn't really going to contribute much to society.

Getting back to Shane's observations on the narrow-minded comments, one has to wonder what the cited individuals would say about those who are audiologically challenged.  A crowd of people speaking in ASL could be pretty offensive to those with a xenophobic mindset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This newfound emphasis on &#8220;legal&#8221; immigration must be gratifying to the Native Americans.  Because all those Europeans who came in from 1492 onwards really didn&#8217;t ask the Native Americans for permission to set foot in America.  Nor did those European immigrants act very nice, either.</p>
<p>Heck, since we&#8217;re so concerned about doing things legally, people of European descent should vacate the Americas and let the indigenous peoples determine who, if anyone, should be legally allowed to come to this land.</p>
<p>I thought the immigration bill had become ridiculously complex, so that it wasn&#8217;t really going to contribute much to society.</p>
<p>Getting back to Shane&#8217;s observations on the narrow-minded comments, one has to wonder what the cited individuals would say about those who are audiologically challenged.  A crowd of people speaking in ASL could be pretty offensive to those with a xenophobic mindset.</p>
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		<title>By: A Deaf Pundit</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84890</link>
		<dc:creator>A Deaf Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-06-29/is-america-going-down-the-toliet/#comment-84890</guid>
		<description>The politicians are doing it because they're pandering to the Hispanic voters. 

As I understand, the bill was essentially the same from the '80s bill. 

I am glad it failed. It is time for the government to ENFORCE the laws, and get those *illegal* immigrants out! 

They want to come here? Then come here legally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politicians are doing it because they&#8217;re pandering to the Hispanic voters. </p>
<p>As I understand, the bill was essentially the same from the &#8217;80s bill. </p>
<p>I am glad it failed. It is time for the government to ENFORCE the laws, and get those *illegal* immigrants out! </p>
<p>They want to come here? Then come here legally.</p>
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