Comments on: Can the Deaf Hear? http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/ Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:39:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: s f http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53695 s f Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:10:04 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53695 Sure, there's a legal definition for what consitutes "deaf." I just don't know where to find it in the federal books. In my state, at least, I know where in the Revised Statutes I can find it. On that tangent (in case you're interested, and not to suggest that it's what passes for a legal definition in the USA), the International Olympic Committee (IOC) recognizes the International Committee for Deaf Sports (CISS), which organizes the Deaflympics and uses the following benchmark: Unassisted hearing of no lower than 55dB in the better ear. Sure, there’s a legal definition for what consitutes “deaf.” I just don’t know where to find it in the federal books. In my state, at least, I know where in the Revised Statutes I can find it.

On that tangent (in case you’re interested, and not to suggest that it’s what passes for a legal definition in the USA), the International Olympic Committee (IOC) recognizes the International Committee for Deaf Sports (CISS), which organizes the Deaflympics and uses the following benchmark: Unassisted hearing of no lower than 55dB in the better ear.

]]> By: Shane http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53659 Shane Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:02:49 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53659 RLM, I have no idea why the commenting feature censored that word, smile. It's the first time I've heard of it. RLM,

I have no idea why the commenting feature censored that word, smile. It’s the first time I’ve heard of it.

]]> By: Shane http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53658 Shane Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:01:23 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53658 Christian, Radical according to Dictionary.com means: 1. of or going to the root or origin; fundamental: a radical difference. 2. thoroughgoing or extreme, esp. as regards change from accepted or traditional forms: a radical change in the policy of a company. Would you not agree that AV is a radical way of teaching deaf children to hear and speak? I thought it was a good choice of word. Yet I can understand why you may feel that it would evoke emotion. Christian,

Radical according to Dictionary.com means:
1. of or going to the root or origin; fundamental: a radical difference.
2. thoroughgoing or extreme, esp. as regards change from accepted or traditional forms: a radical change in the policy of a company.

Would you not agree that AV is a radical way of teaching deaf children to hear and speak? I thought it was a good choice of word. Yet I can understand why you may feel that it would evoke emotion.

]]> By: RLM http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53642 RLM Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:32:48 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53642 I am trying to say the term - t w i n k . Will another term - "boi" to be offensive? RLM I am trying to say the term - t w i n k . Will another term - “boi” to be offensive?

RLM

]]> By: RLM http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53640 RLM Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:29:49 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53640 I am really surprised that the term - ##### is offensive word within the DeafDC.com RLM I am really surprised that the term - ##### is offensive word within the DeafDC.com

RLM

]]> By: RLM http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53637 RLM Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:28:40 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53637 Amanda, many thanks for sharing your personal experience with the existing system, ex. VR counselor and the use of hearing aid. Don't let anybody to define who and what you are. You are simply deaf. No complicated term to define what you are all about. We are all deaf, period. Not bother with the term of using "orally deaf", "culturally deaf" or "hard of hearing" or "oralist". The definition of term kinda split the deaf community at large from being unifed as one given community. Same thing with the GLBT (gay, lebesian ,bisexual and transgender) community by its troubling defintion and clique term like "######","bears","daddies","leather", "gym bunny" or exclusivity based on income, class and education. RLM Amanda, many thanks for sharing your personal experience with the existing system, ex. VR counselor and the use of hearing aid.

Don’t let anybody to define who and what you are. You are simply deaf. No complicated term to define what you are all about.

We are all deaf, period. Not bother with the term of using “orally deaf”, “culturally deaf” or “hard of hearing” or “oralist”. The definition of term kinda split the deaf community at large from being unifed as one given community.

Same thing with the GLBT (gay, lebesian ,bisexual and transgender) community by its troubling defintion and clique term like “######”,”bears”,”daddies”,”leather”, “gym bunny” or exclusivity based on income, class and education.

RLM

]]> By: Aquafina http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53116 Aquafina Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:38:16 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-53116 Amanda- Have you considered filing a ADA lawsuit against the hospital? Or have you just decided to "let it go"? Amanda-

Have you considered filing a ADA lawsuit against the hospital? Or have you just decided to “let it go”?

]]> By: punkybrewster http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-52952 punkybrewster Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:50:08 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-52952 all those races you listed above, ask yourself, have any of them succeeded? Look dude, I know you are crazy and have this fantasy thing going on about how things SHOULD be, but in all reality it boils down to this..... You cannot change people, you cannot force people to conform to what you think is right. All you can do is follow what is best for you and your close friends and family. you ain't my family and you are definitely NOT my friend, so if you really think all these long diatribes and letters defending your inadequacies is going to change a thing, you can stop sniffing that drain-o and get into the clear. all those races you listed above, ask yourself, have any of them succeeded?

Look dude, I know you are crazy and have this fantasy thing going on about how things SHOULD be, but in all reality it boils down to this….. You cannot change people, you cannot force people to conform to what you think is right. All you can do is follow what is best for you and your close friends and family.

you ain’t my family and you are definitely NOT my friend, so if you really think all these long diatribes and letters defending your inadequacies is going to change a thing, you can stop sniffing that drain-o and get into the clear.

]]> By: amanda franklin-pulisciano http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-52869 amanda franklin-pulisciano Mon, 18 Dec 2006 05:25:22 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-52869 maybe instead of the term legal deaf I should say medically deaf but that varies a little also depending where you go to.A good example is my VR advisor who grew up Deaf asked me how I looked at myself and i said I am deaf and she said oral deaf. I told her I am kind of stuck in between worlds trying to please everyone. I have some friends who say I am deaf some who say I am hard of hearing and some who say both. Can be confusing. But I have Deaf Deaf friends who say that i may be think hearing because I sign English but i have a Deaf heart which is always nice compliment. ....but my hearing starts about 100 dB. Everyone (ENT/audiologists/my family)want to stick a CI inside my head now...next will be arms and legs? I think I'm fine with the hearing aids (they keep me from getting hit in the parking lot) for now. If someone really cares about me enough they will use sign language or write it down. Until then I rather not stick that thing inside my head because I am not broken, I'm just deaf so leave my ears alone. maybe instead of the term legal deaf I should say medically deaf but that varies a little also depending where you go to.A good example is my VR advisor who grew up Deaf asked me how I looked at myself and i said I am deaf and she said oral deaf. I told her I am kind of stuck in between worlds trying to please everyone. I have some friends who say I am deaf some who say I am hard of hearing and some who say both. Can be confusing. But I have Deaf Deaf friends who say that i may be think hearing because I sign English but i have a Deaf heart which is always nice compliment.
….but my hearing starts about 100 dB. Everyone (ENT/audiologists/my family)want to stick a CI inside my head now…next will be arms and legs? I think I’m fine with the hearing aids (they keep me from getting hit in the parking lot) for now. If someone really cares about me enough they will use sign language or write it down. Until then I rather not stick that thing inside my head because I am not broken, I’m just deaf so leave my ears alone.

]]> By: RLM http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-52730 RLM Sun, 17 Dec 2006 20:55:49 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2006-12-15/can-the-deaf-hear/#comment-52730 Amanda, well-said! Curious Eyes, Audism is more than the societal attitude toward deaf people. It ever involve the behavioral attitude, ideological belief and individual prejudice. The customer satisifcation within the private sector is the real necessity as a complete human being. The service providers need to learn to ask what options we personally prefer. The use of CART and video interpreting curtail the basic human rights for effective communication and personal comfort within the hosptial settings. Live interpreters are real necessity at the emergency room or surgery room. The deaf patient could not able to look at the video monitor while lying on the stretcher, etc. That is a matter of life and death. Hosptials and other service providers do receive substantial federal grants which violate the Section 504 law for not providing the essential accomodation for disabled individuals. Robert L. Mason (RLM) Amanda, well-said!

Curious Eyes, Audism is more than the societal attitude toward deaf people. It ever involve the behavioral attitude, ideological belief and individual prejudice.

The customer satisifcation within the private sector is the real necessity as a complete human being. The service providers need to learn to ask what options we personally prefer.

The use of CART and video interpreting curtail the basic human rights for effective communication and personal comfort within the hosptial settings.

Live interpreters are real necessity at the emergency room or surgery room. The deaf patient could not able to look at the video monitor while lying on the stretcher, etc. That is a matter of life and death.

Hosptials and other service providers do receive substantial federal grants which violate the Section 504 law for not providing the essential accomodation for disabled individuals.

Robert L. Mason (RLM)

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