Comments on: Religion Going Green? http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:22:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: mcconnell http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85914 mcconnell Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:45:19 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85914 The issue they are screaming about is global warming. The issue they are screaming about is global warming.

]]> By: Ehh.... http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85912 Ehh.... Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:40:12 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85912 again, I have to point out that the correct term to use should be "climate change", not "global warming". again, I have to point out that the correct term to use should be “climate change”, not “global warming”.

]]> By: Ehh.... http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85911 Ehh.... Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:38:47 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85911 If anyone reads this article, they must also read the article that refutes the "dust to dust" publication. It describes the flaws and faults of McConnell's quoted publication. http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integrity_of_science/case_studies/hummer_vs_prius.pdf If anyone reads this article, they must also read the article that refutes the “dust to dust” publication. It describes the flaws and faults of McConnell’s quoted publication.
http://www.pacinst.org/topics/....._prius.pdf

]]> By: Ehh.... http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85910 Ehh.... Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:37:28 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85910 Ah. Ok. I was out travelling for work. But if you read the link from Pacific Institute (that I linked above), it shows the fallacies in that publication that you used (the "Dust to Dust" publication). Ah. Ok. I was out travelling for work. But if you read the link from Pacific Institute (that I linked above), it shows the fallacies in that publication that you used (the “Dust to Dust” publication).

]]> By: mcconnell http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85908 mcconnell Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:21:17 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85908 This "carbon footprint" is all a big joke. Even al-Gore is a big polluter. When one says "carbon footprint" what they're talking about is the release of carbon dioxide (e.g. burning of fuel or oil). Humans produce between 6 and 7 gigatons (billion) of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere every year. Earth produce her own carbon dioxide by releasing some 170 gigatons into the atmosphere. We us puny humans release less than 1% of the total carbon dioxide compared to what earth releases yearly. And then we are still learning about carbon sinks and how much of earth absorbs CO2 (and other gases). It's a complex interaction. This "carbon footprint" thing is a farce. I'd be more interested on addressing the local and regional pollution problems first because they impact us immediately (healthwise, view, economic and so on) and get away from using that ridiculous buzzword because it all goes back to this global warming (as supposedly caused by humans) panic which, again, is utterly ridiculous. This “carbon footprint” is all a big joke. Even al-Gore is a big polluter. When one says “carbon footprint” what they’re talking about is the release of carbon dioxide (e.g. burning of fuel or oil).

Humans produce between 6 and 7 gigatons (billion) of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere every year. Earth produce her own carbon dioxide by releasing some 170 gigatons into the atmosphere. We us puny humans release less than 1% of the total carbon dioxide compared to what earth releases yearly. And then we are still learning about carbon sinks and how much of earth absorbs CO2 (and other gases). It’s a complex interaction.

This “carbon footprint” thing is a farce. I’d be more interested on addressing the local and regional pollution problems first because they impact us immediately (healthwise, view, economic and so on) and get away from using that ridiculous buzzword because it all goes back to this global warming (as supposedly caused by humans) panic which, again, is utterly ridiculous.

]]> By: mcconnell http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85907 mcconnell Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:03:49 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85907 You're 9 days late. http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85715 You’re 9 days late.
http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz.....ment-85715

]]> By: Ehh.... http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85904 Ehh.... Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:53:32 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85904 You're not quite so right in this. Not every "envirowacko" buys a hybrid - some buy fuel-efficient cars that get good mileage, such as the Toyota Echo. Others forgo personal automobile transportation and rely on public transportation and/or walking shoes and bicycles. Furthermore, hybrid cars (and now hybrid SUVs such as the Ford Escape) have a far lower life cycle energy requirements than large SUVs. http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integrity_of_science/case_studies/hummer_vs_prius.pdf Again, you failed to quote the source for that hybrid cars were less efficient. You’re not quite so right in this. Not every “envirowacko” buys a hybrid - some buy fuel-efficient cars that get good mileage, such as the Toyota Echo. Others forgo personal automobile transportation and rely on public transportation and/or walking shoes and bicycles.

Furthermore, hybrid cars (and now hybrid SUVs such as the Ford Escape) have a far lower life cycle energy requirements than large SUVs.
http://www.pacinst.org/topics/....._prius.pdf

Again, you failed to quote the source for that hybrid cars were less efficient.

]]> By: Ehh.... http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85903 Ehh.... Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:47:39 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85903 McConnell - Before you go spouting on about the OISM, you should check this page out. http://campus.quehttp://campus.queens.edu/faculty/jannr/bio103/kyoto.htm Be careful of what sources you quote from. The article they used was not peer-reviewed, nor was it endorsed by the National Academy of Science. Furthermore check this article from Scientific American regarding your quoted website: http://www.sciam.com/page.cfm?section=sidebar&articleID=0004F43C-DC1A-1C6E-84A9809EC588EF21 I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of this website. The best bet for accurate information is the IPCC. http://www.ipcc.ch/about/app-a.pdf They really go through a rigorous review before publishing their results. McConnell -

Before you go spouting on about the OISM, you should check this page out.

http://campus.quehttp://campus...../kyoto.htm

Be careful of what sources you quote from. The article they used was not peer-reviewed, nor was it endorsed by the National Academy of Science.

Furthermore check this article from Scientific American regarding your quoted website:
http://www.sciam.com/page.cfm?.....9EC588EF21

I wouldn’t trust anything that comes out of this website. The best bet for accurate information is the IPCC.
http://www.ipcc.ch/about/app-a.pdf

They really go through a rigorous review before publishing their results.

]]> By: Rob http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85856 Rob Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:11:01 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85856 Actually, China and India are beginning to supersede us Americans as the largest consumer populations on the planet. A staggering combined populations of 2 billions consumers and the numbers will continue to grow as the world's populations continue to surge over the next several decades. In 20 years, Indonesia will overtake the United States as the third most populous country on the planet. All these growths will put greater demands on resources anywhere in the planet. If I'm right, as countries like China, India, Russia, Brazil and the European Union will be expanding businesses and companies in North America in the next 2 decades in order to meet such growing demands in other countries. In Ohio, we have a giant Russian steel company in talks with the state government of Ohio about resurrecting a former steel-producing town and an economic defunct mining town and many people in both towns are definitely looking forward to that. Europe/India's Arcelor Mittal, the largest steel company in the world, is seeking to expand steel production businesses in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Which mean more steel and plastic in the future. Bottom line: it's all about the money to SUSTAIN local economies. :| Actually, China and India are beginning to supersede us Americans as the largest consumer populations on the planet. A staggering combined populations of 2 billions consumers and the numbers will continue to grow as the world’s populations continue to surge over the next several decades. In 20 years, Indonesia will overtake the United States as the third most populous country on the planet. All these growths will put greater demands on resources anywhere in the planet. If I’m right, as countries like China, India, Russia, Brazil and the European Union will be expanding businesses and companies in North America in the next 2 decades in order to meet such growing demands in other countries. In Ohio, we have a giant Russian steel company in talks with the state government of Ohio about resurrecting a former steel-producing town and an economic defunct mining town and many people in both towns are definitely looking forward to that. Europe/India’s Arcelor Mittal, the largest steel company in the world, is seeking to expand steel production businesses in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Which mean more steel and plastic in the future. Bottom line: it’s all about the money to SUSTAIN local economies. :|

]]> By: Rob http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85855 Rob Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:52:26 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/liz-stone/2007-07-18/religion-going-green/#comment-85855 That's absolutely neat and exactly what I'm talking about having faith and hope in the human spirit of innovation and ingenuity, especially when it come to finding solutions to solve the world's most pressing problem about trashes. :D That’s absolutely neat and exactly what I’m talking about having faith and hope in the human spirit of innovation and ingenuity, especially when it come to finding solutions to solve the world’s most pressing problem about trashes. :D

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