Comments on: Since 3 am This Morning http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:39:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Me is the Ridor http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23280 Me is the Ridor Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:35:52 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23280 Now Julie is not stupid! Glad to have you on the board! R- Now Julie is not stupid! Glad to have you on the board!

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]]> By: Gary http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23276 Gary Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:10:36 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23276 I am sorry you had to go through all that. Maybe they need to realize that they are breaking laws, and that they are doing more harm than good for the Deaf community. There are some student leaders who enjoy wreaking havoc, partying, and vandalizing the campus while the IKJ Administration, faculty and staff, and students are waiting for someone to blow the whistle and have them arrested. I know most Deaf people will deny this but it is pretty obvious that the IKJ Administration is trying not to cause any more stir with the Deaf community, by not having student leaders and student protestors arrested right away. He could have done that- furiously fast but he hasn't. Can't you guys give him some credit? He has done so much for Gallaudet, and it is possible that he is trying to sort things out with the Deaf community, while acknowledging that there are many conflicting agendas and ulterior motives in the Deaf community. As much as we hate to admit it, the Deaf community is surprisingly puerile and volaite. Every time a Deaf person gets upset, he will cause an uproar, a wailing cry to get attention right away. Deaf people are like that. Manners isn't their area of strength, and I believe it is what is stopping Deaf people from getting advanced in life. I am sorry you had to go through all that. Maybe they need to realize that they are breaking laws, and that they are doing more harm than good for the Deaf community. There are some student leaders who enjoy wreaking havoc, partying, and vandalizing the campus while the IKJ Administration, faculty and staff, and students are waiting for someone to blow the whistle and have them arrested. I know most Deaf people will deny this but it is pretty obvious that the IKJ Administration is trying not to cause any more stir with the Deaf community, by not having student leaders and student protestors arrested right away. He could have done that- furiously fast but he hasn’t. Can’t you guys give him some credit? He has done so much for Gallaudet, and it is possible that he is trying to sort things out with the Deaf community, while acknowledging that there are many conflicting agendas and ulterior motives in the Deaf community. As much as we hate to admit it, the Deaf community is surprisingly puerile and volaite. Every time a Deaf person gets upset, he will cause an uproar, a wailing cry to get attention right away. Deaf people are like that. Manners isn’t their area of strength, and I believe it is what is stopping Deaf people from getting advanced in life.

]]> By: betenoir http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23271 betenoir Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:59:00 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23271 Exactly. The fact that the commication needs - especially the ASL students- are being ingored. I won't deny I've had issues with some of the ASLers in the past. However the ASL users DO have a right to have their communctions needs met. They're not getting their needs met which means that their education is being short changed. Is that fair? Exactly. The fact that the commication needs - especially the ASL students- are being ingored.

I won’t deny I’ve had issues with some of the ASLers in the past.

However the ASL users DO have a right to have their communctions needs met.

They’re not getting their needs met which means that their education is being short changed.

Is that fair?

]]> By: Eh http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23169 Eh Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:40:19 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23169 To be fair to Fernandes, she doesn't officially take over until January 2007 as president of Gallaudet. So, ultimate responsibility goes to IKJ. To be fair to Fernandes, she doesn’t officially take over until January 2007 as president of Gallaudet. So, ultimate responsibility goes to IKJ.

]]> By: wildstarryskies http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23158 wildstarryskies Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:54:47 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23158 To all your "YES" answers, the reality is "NO", it is not happening. *Did the university recognize ASL as the official language of GAllaudet (along with English)? NO. *Is ASL taught as a language? NO. *Should Visual communication access be the goal? YES. Has visual communication access been made the goal? NO. DPS still can't sign! *Is the range of deaf and hard of hearing individuals served by Gallaudet? NO. ASL users lose out on professors who don't sign well. This issue is a big part of the protest. the administration has ignored student's needs for too long. When we heard IKJ was leaving, we hoped for a new agenda, a new future. It is no wonder we were so upset to find out that his handpicked successor was selected, and that she had been the one enforcing those repressive policies all along. We want the "NO" to become "YES", and I, for one, do not believe JK takes those issues seriously. Her behavior the past few months (disappearing act) has only shown me that she runs and hides in times of crisis. To all your “YES” answers, the reality is “NO”, it is not happening.

*Did the university recognize ASL as the official language of GAllaudet (along with English)? NO.

*Is ASL taught as a language? NO.

*Should Visual communication access be the goal? YES. Has visual communication access been made the goal? NO. DPS still can’t sign!

*Is the range of deaf and hard of hearing individuals served by Gallaudet? NO. ASL users lose out on professors who don’t sign well.

This issue is a big part of the protest. the administration has ignored student’s needs for too long. When we heard IKJ was leaving, we hoped for a new agenda, a new future. It is no wonder we were so upset to find out that his handpicked successor was selected, and that she had been the one enforcing those repressive policies all along.

We want the “NO” to become “YES”, and I, for one, do not believe JK takes those issues seriously. Her behavior the past few months (disappearing act) has only shown me that she runs and hides in times of crisis.

]]> By: Cloak & Dagger http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23150 Cloak & Dagger Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:11:49 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23150 In this morning's Express, the headline for the Gallaudet protest was: mob rule. How long do they plan to occupy HMB until they surrender? Until December when they go home for the holidays? As for their grades, I wonder if their professors would flunk them for not showing up or handing in their papers? What kind of excuse would they come up when meeting their VR counselors about their grades? I wouldn't be surprised that they felt that the protest was more important than their grades which is their decision, but I'm not sure if that would convince their counselors and may risk losing their VR support. So, is all of this worth it? In this morning’s Express, the headline for the Gallaudet protest was: mob rule. How long do they plan to occupy HMB until they surrender? Until December when they go home for the holidays?

As for their grades, I wonder if their professors would flunk them for not showing up or handing in their papers? What kind of excuse would they come up when meeting their VR counselors about their grades? I wouldn’t be surprised that they felt that the protest was more important than their grades which is their decision, but I’m not sure if that would convince their counselors and may risk losing their VR support. So, is all of this worth it?

]]> By: Donna http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23126 Donna Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:02:32 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23126 Reality check. If Gallaudet doesn't recognize ASL as an official langauge, why would they have a Department of ASL and Deaf Studies? It sounds like you are confusing recognition of ASL as A language with declaring it as THE official language of Gallaudet. Gallaudet has a high level of federal funding. As such, it needs to serve the diverse deaf community, not just the Deaf Culture community. Walking around campus, I see very little linguistically accurate ASL. I see a range of signing styles and approaches. Should ASL be recognized and taught as a language? Yes. Should visual communication access be the goal? Yes. Should the range of deaf and hard of hearing individuals be served by Gallaudet? Yes. Those who are Deaf as well as those with CIs. Both ASL and English should be cherished as important aspects of the community and every attempt should be made to meet the communication needs of ALL students. Reality check. If Gallaudet doesn’t recognize ASL as an official langauge, why would they have a Department of ASL and Deaf Studies? It sounds like you are confusing recognition of ASL as A language with declaring it as THE official language of Gallaudet. Gallaudet has a high level of federal funding. As such, it needs to serve the diverse deaf community, not just the Deaf Culture community. Walking around campus, I see very little linguistically accurate ASL. I see a range of signing styles and approaches. Should ASL be recognized and taught as a language? Yes. Should visual communication access be the goal? Yes. Should the range of deaf and hard of hearing individuals be served by Gallaudet? Yes. Those who are Deaf as well as those with CIs. Both ASL and English should be cherished as important aspects of the community and every attempt should be made to meet the communication needs of ALL students.

]]> By: betenoir http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23059 betenoir Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:00:46 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23059 I would suggest that you get cards with the urls printed and hand them out to members of the media so they don't have an excuse not to hire terps. I would suggest that you get cards with the urls printed and hand them out to members of the media so they don’t have an excuse not to hire terps.

]]> By: betenoir http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23058 betenoir Thu, 12 Oct 2006 06:59:04 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23058 I know. It depresses the hell out of me. The future looked so bright when he became president. I know. It depresses the hell out of me. The future looked so bright when he became president.

]]> By: betenoir http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23057 betenoir Thu, 12 Oct 2006 06:54:42 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/julie-hochgesang/2006-10-11/since-3-am-this-morning/#comment-23057 Most likely ignore the issue based on reports that I've heard about her. Most likely ignore the issue based on reports that I’ve heard about her.

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