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	<title>Comments on: Update on GoAmerica Outsourcing to the Philippines</title>
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		<title>By: Rev. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-96125</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also was hired by Verizon/MCI to do relay.  There was indeed no dialect or accent training--the only language training we got was a brief coverage of ASL grammar.

To correct some incorrect information on the part of Jerry Nelson/GoAmerica regarding the Philippines center. . .

1) A "good chunk" of IP-Relay traffic being routed through the Philippines by MCI is an exaggeration.  A more accurate assessment would be 5-10% of the text-to-voice traffic during daytime hours; the majority of the calls were processed through Riverbank and Memphis call centers, including all voice-to-text My IP Relay calls.  Thus, it's quite likely that only a small percentage of any particular user's IP-Relay calls have been handled in the Philippines in the past.

2) MCI's center is not the same center Stellar Nordia is planning to use.

3) A rather large piece of misinformation has been circling regarding fraudulent calls.  They're reduced, not blocked, and there's no guarantee that the volume of fraud calls won't escalate again in the future.  All relay providers, including MCI/Verizon, have been blocking calls identifiable as international in origin for well over a year at this point; GoAmerica has presumably been more aggressive in identifying attempts by con artists to hide their IP addresses, but this is unlikely to permanently stop or even reduce the fraud problem, just as past anti-fraud measures have met with only mixed success.

As far as this goes, should a large amount of fraud return once all the IP relay calls are routed out of the United States, GoAmerica will be doing quite well financially; cheaper center + more calls + no operators left to blab to the local media about the fraud problem = easy money.  Perhaps I'm cynical on the last, but only time will tell. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also was hired by Verizon/MCI to do relay.  There was indeed no dialect or accent training&#8211;the only language training we got was a brief coverage of ASL grammar.</p>
<p>To correct some incorrect information on the part of Jerry Nelson/GoAmerica regarding the Philippines center. . .</p>
<p>1) A &#8220;good chunk&#8221; of IP-Relay traffic being routed through the Philippines by MCI is an exaggeration.  A more accurate assessment would be 5-10% of the text-to-voice traffic during daytime hours; the majority of the calls were processed through Riverbank and Memphis call centers, including all voice-to-text My IP Relay calls.  Thus, it&#8217;s quite likely that only a small percentage of any particular user&#8217;s IP-Relay calls have been handled in the Philippines in the past.</p>
<p>2) MCI&#8217;s center is not the same center Stellar Nordia is planning to use.</p>
<p>3) A rather large piece of misinformation has been circling regarding fraudulent calls.  They&#8217;re reduced, not blocked, and there&#8217;s no guarantee that the volume of fraud calls won&#8217;t escalate again in the future.  All relay providers, including MCI/Verizon, have been blocking calls identifiable as international in origin for well over a year at this point; GoAmerica has presumably been more aggressive in identifying attempts by con artists to hide their IP addresses, but this is unlikely to permanently stop or even reduce the fraud problem, just as past anti-fraud measures have met with only mixed success.</p>
<p>As far as this goes, should a large amount of fraud return once all the IP relay calls are routed out of the United States, GoAmerica will be doing quite well financially; cheaper center + more calls + no operators left to blab to the local media about the fraud problem = easy money.  Perhaps I&#8217;m cynical on the last, but only time will tell. . .</p>
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		<title>By: MemOpr</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-95310</link>
		<dc:creator>MemOpr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"These telecommunication companies hired people to work with relay operators to smooth out their accents and regional dialects, and complaints about accents and dialects decreased."

That is a load of bullpoop. I was hired by MCI to do relay and we never had such a "training" happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These telecommunication companies hired people to work with relay operators to smooth out their accents and regional dialects, and complaints about accents and dialects decreased.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is a load of bullpoop. I was hired by MCI to do relay and we never had such a &#8220;training&#8221; happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-95296</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am against outsourcing and for globalisation, or rather for a better foreign policy in all aspects. America's attitude towards bilingualism is atrocious, and any "cultural tolerance workshop" is quickly turned into a "let's just take the things that look good and screw the things we don't like" affair. How repugnant of so-called contemporary diverse thinkers!

While I am opposed to illegal immigration, I am a more ardent supporter of immigration reform. The long process of naturalisation is simply mind-boggling and intimidating as a citizen! The American dream should be offered to ALL without linguicism. Bilingualism, as I've said before, is a skill to be proud of! Seriously, America is not the only country in the world and folks need to recognise that there is a middle class in other countries, too, struggling to get by as we are. What do we offer to them? A lengthy immigration process that is not only tedious but unfair and bigotry against bilingualism.

As for outsourcing, I am opposed to this because the only goal of the companies is to save money by exploiting low standards. Outsourcing could prove to turn into globalisation - maintaining the number of jobs here AND bringing the American dream to other countries, boosting their economies and feelings about America - but instead, it only fosters cynicism among US middle class (rightly so) and an attitude that America is imperialistic in other countries - by exploiting the standards, by not learning their language, by not respecting their cultures. Tsk, tsk...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am against outsourcing and for globalisation, or rather for a better foreign policy in all aspects. America&#8217;s attitude towards bilingualism is atrocious, and any &#8220;cultural tolerance workshop&#8221; is quickly turned into a &#8220;let&#8217;s just take the things that look good and screw the things we don&#8217;t like&#8221; affair. How repugnant of so-called contemporary diverse thinkers!</p>
<p>While I am opposed to illegal immigration, I am a more ardent supporter of immigration reform. The long process of naturalisation is simply mind-boggling and intimidating as a citizen! The American dream should be offered to ALL without linguicism. Bilingualism, as I&#8217;ve said before, is a skill to be proud of! Seriously, America is not the only country in the world and folks need to recognise that there is a middle class in other countries, too, struggling to get by as we are. What do we offer to them? A lengthy immigration process that is not only tedious but unfair and bigotry against bilingualism.</p>
<p>As for outsourcing, I am opposed to this because the only goal of the companies is to save money by exploiting low standards. Outsourcing could prove to turn into globalisation - maintaining the number of jobs here AND bringing the American dream to other countries, boosting their economies and feelings about America - but instead, it only fosters cynicism among US middle class (rightly so) and an attitude that America is imperialistic in other countries - by exploiting the standards, by not learning their language, by not respecting their cultures. Tsk, tsk&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-95218</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan and William,

The personal attacks on RLM need to stop now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan and William,</p>
<p>The personal attacks on RLM need to stop now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-95207</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agreed with you. Dan's and William's comments weren't helpful enough (and I suspected these two may be the same guy because of the posts' wordings seem similar to me, don't you think?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agreed with you. Dan&#8217;s and William&#8217;s comments weren&#8217;t helpful enough (and I suspected these two may be the same guy because of the posts&#8217; wordings seem similar to me, don&#8217;t you think?).</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Mendelsohn</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-95203</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Mendelsohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barinthus - thanks!

Others - your opinions on globalization versus localization (if that's the right word) are welcome.  But please, no personal attacks (i.e., "racist!") against each other. No need for that here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barinthus - thanks!</p>
<p>Others - your opinions on globalization versus localization (if that&#8217;s the right word) are welcome.  But please, no personal attacks (i.e., &#8220;racist!&#8221;) against each other. No need for that here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-95202</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Officially, you are an Idiot. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Officially, you are an Idiot. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Barinthus</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-95193</link>
		<dc:creator>Barinthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh - many thanks for updating us with this important information!  Keep up the good work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh - many thanks for updating us with this important information!  Keep up the good work :)</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-95176</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. There is evil side of globalization. But there is good side - better than nothing and win-win situation. Corporations (majority) are considering Research and Development, Marketing jobs in USA and do manufacturing in third world. That is a reality of business world. It's all about economic crisis! in USA. Reason??? Americans are so LAZY! and SPOILED! compared to other developed countries like Japan, Germany. They understand that modernized globalization is the best choice due to high volume of business competition. 

It seems you don't understand business world, not enough! ;-)

We enjoy our lives too. Enjoy yourself, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. There is evil side of globalization. But there is good side - better than nothing and win-win situation. Corporations (majority) are considering Research and Development, Marketing jobs in USA and do manufacturing in third world. That is a reality of business world. It&#8217;s all about economic crisis! in USA. Reason??? Americans are so LAZY! and SPOILED! compared to other developed countries like Japan, Germany. They understand that modernized globalization is the best choice due to high volume of business competition. </p>
<p>It seems you don&#8217;t understand business world, not enough! ;-)</p>
<p>We enjoy our lives too. Enjoy yourself, too.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/josh-mendelsohn/2008-02-23/update-on-goamerica-outsourcing-to-the-philippines/#comment-95170</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, 38 yrs old?? Sorry for u. 38 yrs should be matured enough to understand new generation business. But u re still puzzle about it. U never answer how to solve for Corp. U don't care about economics and tech issues. U only know deaf cult things! Better not to waste your time in discussing this. Enjoy talking about agbell and blah blah! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, 38 yrs old?? Sorry for u. 38 yrs should be matured enough to understand new generation business. But u re still puzzle about it. U never answer how to solve for Corp. U don&#8217;t care about economics and tech issues. U only know deaf cult things! Better not to waste your time in discussing this. Enjoy talking about agbell and blah blah! ;)</p>
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