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	<title>Comments on: Institution Nationale des Sourds a&#8217; Paris</title>
	<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/</link>
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		<title>By: Yvonne</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86281</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just googled for deaf history and found this site: http://www.deaf-history.org.uk/ (unfortunately it's a frames site and therefore inaccessible in a variety of ways, but still interesting).  There's also a site about Milan 1880 http://www.milan1880.com/Historical/Historicalfacts.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just googled for deaf history and found this site: <a href="http://www.deaf-history.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.deaf-history.org.uk/</a> (unfortunately it&#8217;s a frames site and therefore inaccessible in a variety of ways, but still interesting).  There&#8217;s also a site about Milan 1880 <a href="http://www.milan1880.com/Historical/Historicalfacts.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.milan1880.com/Histo.....facts.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86252</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86252</guid>
		<description>The education system in Europe is this way - you take a test (which you cannot repeat) and it decided you go to university or to vocational school. In the U.S., you can take the SAT GRE etc as many times as you can. Or go to college or go to vocational school/community college.

IIRC, Germany has an SSI system which companies paid because there is an affirmative action requirements that you have to employe PWDs or paid the fines.

For the President Bush, well, he got a MBA unlike Gore, who flunked or quit every grad programs he was admitted. And Bush got better grades than the rich John Kerry. And those entitlements programs costs money, mine and your tax dollars at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The education system in Europe is this way - you take a test (which you cannot repeat) and it decided you go to university or to vocational school. In the U.S., you can take the SAT GRE etc as many times as you can. Or go to college or go to vocational school/community college.</p>
<p>IIRC, Germany has an SSI system which companies paid because there is an affirmative action requirements that you have to employe PWDs or paid the fines.</p>
<p>For the President Bush, well, he got a MBA unlike Gore, who flunked or quit every grad programs he was admitted. And Bush got better grades than the rich John Kerry. And those entitlements programs costs money, mine and your tax dollars at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Ketcham</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86130</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele Ketcham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86130</guid>
		<description>Brianne, I'm sorry to have to let you know that all of this is old news. This is well documented in "A Journey into Deaf-World" by R. Hoffmeister, Ben Bahan and Harlan Lane.

France went rigidly oral right after 1880 Milan, and this is why they're not the leaders in Deaf education today. Unfortunately the baton has passed onto to United States, because we're at least moving Deaf education forward with Bi-Bi movement, as well as advocacy work through NAD, etc.

The French Deaf still sign, of course, but their sign language is not allowed in classrooms. According to the book, there is some hope, though. A law was recently passed in France that allows parents of Deaf children to choose to have their children educated with both French Sign Language (LSF) and French, instead of only spoken French.

Of course, the question is: are parents taking advantage of the new law?

And are enough of them doing it to the point where they could take France in the right direction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brianne, I&#8217;m sorry to have to let you know that all of this is old news. This is well documented in &#8220;A Journey into Deaf-World&#8221; by R. Hoffmeister, Ben Bahan and Harlan Lane.</p>
<p>France went rigidly oral right after 1880 Milan, and this is why they&#8217;re not the leaders in Deaf education today. Unfortunately the baton has passed onto to United States, because we&#8217;re at least moving Deaf education forward with Bi-Bi movement, as well as advocacy work through NAD, etc.</p>
<p>The French Deaf still sign, of course, but their sign language is not allowed in classrooms. According to the book, there is some hope, though. A law was recently passed in France that allows parents of Deaf children to choose to have their children educated with both French Sign Language (LSF) and French, instead of only spoken French.</p>
<p>Of course, the question is: are parents taking advantage of the new law?</p>
<p>And are enough of them doing it to the point where they could take France in the right direction?</p>
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		<title>By: Visitor119</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86110</link>
		<dc:creator>Visitor119</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86110</guid>
		<description>I have visited your site 781-times</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have visited your site 781-times</p>
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		<title>By: RLM</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86043</link>
		<dc:creator>RLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86043</guid>
		<description>How much of the original INJS de Paris buildings still intact? How old is this school now? 

  GL is definitely right about the proper acronymn for the French Sign Language - LSF, not FSL. You, Jean Boutcher, ought to know better from your fluency in French written language. 

  Where do you, Jean, obtain info about Sweden and Germany taking away with the similar SSI programs for disabled people?  

  GWB snickered at many government entitlement programs back to his Yale MBA studies. His MBA professor was horrified about GWB's lack of intellects and understandings toward less forunate people and their struggling liveihood. 

  The Iraqi war controvesty kinda cause such distractions for the GWB-Dicky's domestic policies. 

   Merkel's conservative Germany leadership probably was mainly responsible for abolishing the generous social entitlement programs, not GWB. Do you have any proofs about GWB's influence on Germany and Sweden's domestic programs?

  Why Sweden should listen to GWB's advice about the social entitlement programs? 

Robert L. Mason (RLM)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much of the original INJS de Paris buildings still intact? How old is this school now? </p>
<p>  GL is definitely right about the proper acronymn for the French Sign Language - LSF, not FSL. You, Jean Boutcher, ought to know better from your fluency in French written language. </p>
<p>  Where do you, Jean, obtain info about Sweden and Germany taking away with the similar SSI programs for disabled people?  </p>
<p>  GWB snickered at many government entitlement programs back to his Yale MBA studies. His MBA professor was horrified about GWB&#8217;s lack of intellects and understandings toward less forunate people and their struggling liveihood. </p>
<p>  The Iraqi war controvesty kinda cause such distractions for the GWB-Dicky&#8217;s domestic policies. </p>
<p>   Merkel&#8217;s conservative Germany leadership probably was mainly responsible for abolishing the generous social entitlement programs, not GWB. Do you have any proofs about GWB&#8217;s influence on Germany and Sweden&#8217;s domestic programs?</p>
<p>  Why Sweden should listen to GWB&#8217;s advice about the social entitlement programs? </p>
<p>Robert L. Mason (RLM)</p>
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		<title>By: g l</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86020</link>
		<dc:creator>g l</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>??? the French government is socialist? 

Sweden isn't a G8 member, and I don't think they've done away with SSI. If they did, I don't think you can attribute it to Bush's influence... he's hated over there.

Lastly, in your other post (#85996), isn't FSL actually acronymized as LSF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>??? the French government is socialist? </p>
<p>Sweden isn&#8217;t a G8 member, and I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ve done away with SSI. If they did, I don&#8217;t think you can attribute it to Bush&#8217;s influence&#8230; he&#8217;s hated over there.</p>
<p>Lastly, in your other post (#85996), isn&#8217;t FSL actually acronymized as LSF?</p>
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		<title>By: ASL Risen</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86016</link>
		<dc:creator>ASL Risen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86016</guid>
		<description>WOW, thanks DeafDC.com for allowing Brianne Burger shares her trip in France!  Sad to know that Triple A do not have Deaf info for any of us Deaf Travelers who are so deeply interested to go Deaf History in all over the world! I may be WRONG about AAA because I have not been a member for so long time!  Wondering if AAA do have info about Deaf history included??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, thanks DeafDC.com for allowing Brianne Burger shares her trip in France!  Sad to know that Triple A do not have Deaf info for any of us Deaf Travelers who are so deeply interested to go Deaf History in all over the world! I may be WRONG about AAA because I have not been a member for so long time!  Wondering if AAA do have info about Deaf history included??</p>
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		<title>By: jen</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-86015</link>
		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it's INJS de Paris, not a Paris. By the way, don't use an aigu accent for the word "a." It's a grave accent.

Nitpicking aside, excellent article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s INJS de Paris, not a Paris. By the way, don&#8217;t use an aigu accent for the word &#8220;a.&#8221; It&#8217;s a grave accent.</p>
<p>Nitpicking aside, excellent article.</p>
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		<title>By: Elly</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-85999</link>
		<dc:creator>Elly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's La Sorbonne, Miss French Expert Jean. Brianne, where exactly do you work? Do you mean that your program is federally funded?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s La Sorbonne, Miss French Expert Jean. Brianne, where exactly do you work? Do you mean that your program is federally funded?</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Boutcher</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2007-07-31/institution-nationale-des-sourds-a-paris/#comment-85997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Boutcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Under the Socialist government, most deaf people live in a room studio (microwave, refrigerator,
and bed with only one window in an old apartment
building).Their salaries are incredibly low.

However, things may change soon under a new 
conservative Sarkozy (recently elected). Sarkozy
whose brother owns a financial business in NYC is
a close friends of many Republicans in Congress
as well as of the Bush administration. Meaning?
We may see some deaf people being evicted and driven away into remote villages out of both
Paris and its suburbans. I think they may continue
collecting SSI for the time being. Bush also successfully helped Germany and Sweden remove SSI
-- according to the 2005 G-8 Summit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Under the Socialist government, most deaf people live in a room studio (microwave, refrigerator,<br />
and bed with only one window in an old apartment<br />
building).Their salaries are incredibly low.</p>
<p>However, things may change soon under a new<br />
conservative Sarkozy (recently elected). Sarkozy<br />
whose brother owns a financial business in NYC is<br />
a close friends of many Republicans in Congress<br />
as well as of the Bush administration. Meaning?<br />
We may see some deaf people being evicted and driven away into remote villages out of both<br />
Paris and its suburbans. I think they may continue<br />
collecting SSI for the time being. Bush also successfully helped Germany and Sweden remove SSI<br />
&#8211; according to the 2005 G-8 Summit.</p>
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