Comments on: Concerned Students Take a Stand http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:29:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Mr. Sandman’s Sandbox » Tent City: Revival http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-33675 Mr. Sandman’s Sandbox » Tent City: Revival Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:14:45 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-33675 [...] Late Thursday night, October 5, the students, independently of FSSA, decided to occupy Hall Memorial Building (HMB), where most classrooms and department offices are located. This decision was made partly in the wake of the use of fertilizer on the front lawn where Tent City was located. In the aftermath of student complaints about the use of “earth juice,” and their attempts to confront Jordan in College Hall, the students decided to move Tent City to an area closer to and around HMB. From here, it was but a short step to taking over the building entirely. This unilateral move took everyone by suprise. Unfortunately, it exposed an apparent schism within FSSA, and created potential new opponents of student tactics. Among those who were disturbed was a group calling themselves “Concerned Students.” This coalition made it known that they were distressed about being unable to attend classes and obtain an education. One of their number, Bobby White, wrote a guest post at DeafDC. Far from spurring the troops and garnering more support, the protesters were seen as having made a monumental blunder. [...] […] Late Thursday night, October 5, the students, independently of FSSA, decided to occupy Hall Memorial Building (HMB), where most classrooms and department offices are located. This decision was made partly in the wake of the use of fertilizer on the front lawn where Tent City was located. In the aftermath of student complaints about the use of “earth juice,” and their attempts to confront Jordan in College Hall, the students decided to move Tent City to an area closer to and around HMB. From here, it was but a short step to taking over the building entirely. This unilateral move took everyone by suprise. Unfortunately, it exposed an apparent schism within FSSA, and created potential new opponents of student tactics. Among those who were disturbed was a group calling themselves “Concerned Students.” This coalition made it known that they were distressed about being unable to attend classes and obtain an education. One of their number, Bobby White, wrote a guest post at DeafDC. Far from spurring the troops and garnering more support, the protesters were seen as having made a monumental blunder. […]

]]> By: Stratching My Head http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-23123 Stratching My Head Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:38:38 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-23123 "We believe and support that inherent right to freedom of speech. At the same time, taking over our campus is not only illegal, but it violates our right to an education," said student Bobby White. Bobby White, FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Hmmm... GO to the front gate and speak your oppose to the protest. STOP hiding in your dormority room or in your off-campus residence. Come out and speak. And, you will understand why they are having this... Come to thinking about campus being locked-down. When there is Snow Day, you would jump up and down with joy that your classes are cancelled. Now this lock-down, you bitch about no classes. Gessh! “We believe and support that inherent right to freedom of speech. At the same time, taking over our campus is not only illegal, but it violates our right to an education,” said student Bobby White.

Bobby White, FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Hmmm… GO to the front gate and speak your oppose to the protest. STOP hiding in your dormority room or in your off-campus residence. Come out and speak. And, you will understand why they are having this…

Come to thinking about campus being locked-down. When there is Snow Day, you would jump up and down with joy that your classes are cancelled. Now this lock-down, you bitch about no classes. Gessh!

]]> By: RLM http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22856 RLM Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:57:23 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22856 How true about IKJ and Linda knew BETTER than politicizing and parading their grandson when the climate accumulated to the extent of hostility. IKJ and Linda and JK tried to mainpulate and silenced the protestors into the state of submission when the presence of child like IKJ/Linda's grandson came into the scene. Actor Clive Owens (Brit) scolded other celebrities of being hyprocritical for whining about lack of privacy on their life while celebrities usually paraded their own children in front of the camera. Clive Owens never brought his own children to any public events because he really cherished his personal privacy for children. Everyone couldn't have the double standard to whine about other things while those people were doing to themselves! IKJ and Linda are one of fine example, who are the real schemers to endanger their own grandson for political points. The parents of IKJ's grandson are surely upset with IKJ and Linda for putting the grandson in such a compromising situation. Yes, Bill Gates, the college dropout, revolutionized the computer world. I am the college dropout, too. How true about IKJ and Linda knew BETTER than politicizing and parading their grandson when the climate accumulated to the extent of hostility. IKJ and Linda and JK tried to mainpulate and silenced the protestors into the state of submission when the presence of child like IKJ/Linda’s grandson came into the scene.

Actor Clive Owens (Brit) scolded other celebrities of being hyprocritical for whining about lack of privacy on their life while celebrities usually paraded their own children in front of the camera. Clive Owens never brought his own children to any public events because he really cherished his personal privacy for children. Everyone couldn’t have the double standard to whine about other things while those people were doing to themselves!

IKJ and Linda are one of fine example, who are the real schemers to endanger their own grandson for political points. The parents of IKJ’s grandson are surely upset with IKJ and Linda for putting the grandson in such a compromising situation.

Yes, Bill Gates, the college dropout, revolutionized the computer world. I am the college dropout, too.

]]> By: Stratching My Head http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22823 Stratching My Head Wed, 11 Oct 2006 17:22:46 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22823 Yes, right... Those small children in the HMB belong to the visitors, protestors, and leaders. The concept of being in HMB building is safe place for the kids with their parents due to non-violent behaviors at HMB. At the WAB, that day, IJK KNEW that it would be a DANGEROUS environment for small child which was his grandson. He knew there would be dangers at the unveiling events of both Linda Jordan Gallery & I KING JORDAN ACADEMIC CENTER BECAUSE he knew the protest was going on. He knew that the protest is about IKJ and JKF Administration. If I was a parent and am in IKJ's shoes, I would NOT bring my kids with me unless they are over 18 years old, period. I recall being at a debate in SAC Computer Lab. It was about non-educational and educational people. How their thinking function. They argued that the non-educational (with Diploma, GED, or drop-out) people's thinking function better than educational (with PhD) people. It was a very interesting persceptive debate. It looks like it applies to IJK in THIS case. Yes, right… Those small children in the HMB belong to the visitors, protestors, and leaders. The concept of being in HMB building is safe place for the kids with their parents due to non-violent behaviors at HMB. At the WAB, that day, IJK KNEW that it would be a DANGEROUS environment for small child which was his grandson. He knew there would be dangers at the unveiling events of both Linda Jordan Gallery & I KING JORDAN ACADEMIC CENTER BECAUSE he knew the protest was going on. He knew that the protest is about IKJ and JKF Administration. If I was a parent and am in IKJ’s shoes, I would NOT bring my kids with me unless they are over 18 years old, period.

I recall being at a debate in SAC Computer Lab. It was about non-educational and educational people. How their thinking function. They argued that the non-educational (with Diploma, GED, or drop-out) people’s thinking function better than educational (with PhD) people. It was a very interesting persceptive debate.

It looks like it applies to IJK in THIS case.

]]> By: regina http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22783 regina Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:01:04 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22783 I've seen photos of small children in HMB and at various rallies. I’ve seen photos of small children in HMB and at various rallies.

]]> By: Stratching My Head http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22775 Stratching My Head Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:23:42 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22775 Geesh, it was not the protestors who did the spill on to IKJ. It was an INDIVIDUAL. The leaders scolded that individual. The individual is to write an apology letter to IJK. Now about him bringing his grandson, yes it was a special event BUT he KNEW Gally was a dangerous environment and atmosphere to bring the kid. WOULD you, when you are a parent, bring your little kid to protest? NO.. That's what I am saying here. but it is not the point on this issue. Geesh, it was not the protestors who did the spill on to IKJ. It was an INDIVIDUAL. The leaders scolded that individual. The individual is to write an apology letter to IJK. Now about him bringing his grandson, yes it was a special event BUT he KNEW Gally was a dangerous environment and atmosphere to bring the kid. WOULD you, when you are a parent, bring your little kid to protest? NO.. That’s what I am saying here. but it is not the point on this issue.

]]> By: DeafLinux http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22741 DeafLinux Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:50:42 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22741 Dr. Jordan brought in his grandson because it was a special event. He did not think that protesters would act like an animal by throwing liquids to the crowd. That is one thing we should not condone is such acts of attempted violence. It is not even funny or cool. Protesters should treat all family members with respect and courtesy. Many people will disagree with Jordan's policies but he does not have to be bombarded with physical items. Gallaudet students are becoming trained as a professional and resorting to throwing things does not make them look like one. Its okay to disagree but resorting to violence is not. Dr. Jordan brought in his grandson because it was a special event. He did not think that protesters would act like an animal by throwing liquids to the crowd. That is one thing we should not condone is such acts of attempted violence. It is not even funny or cool. Protesters should treat all family members with respect and courtesy. Many people will disagree with Jordan’s policies but he does not have to be bombarded with physical items. Gallaudet students are becoming trained as a professional and resorting to throwing things does not make them look like one. Its okay to disagree but resorting to violence is not.

]]> By: Stratching My Head http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22729 Stratching My Head Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:41:10 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22729 What I am trying to say here.. is that you guys should stop and think of how JKF and IKJ have been doing to us all on Gallaudet campus. They are manipulating us all, man!!! They both are the cause of the whole thing, especially the HMB lock-down. If they had heard and listen to THEIR students, faculties, staff, and alumnae they would realize that it is better on the students', faculties', staff, and alumnae's behalf is to have JKF resigned. Look at DPN of 1988, Zinner (however it is spelled) decided that it was better on Gallaudet's behalf to resign and let the deaf (I insist, the small d, not a capital D) take over the presidency. We accomplished that, although Zinner had boosted a college or university in North Carolina to a very accomplished funded college/university. We applause her and look up on her for giving up the presidency of Gallaudet. Now JFK needs to stop and think what is the best for Gallaudet. What is it? RESIGN! Now, if she had resigned a long time ago, there wouldn't be the HMB lock-down. She is stubborn and manipulating us all and has caused the whole situation. For an example, the false bomb threat TWICE and accused students for that which is dang false; IKJ bringing his grandson into a DANGEROUS environment (what kind of grandfather with PhD he is!!); not having bridge built between students, faculties, staff, & alumnae and the administrators; the public relation letters sending out to public not made by public relation department; and etc etc etc ... If you guys stop and come to HMB to learn and be educated about all crap issues that had been risen between the all of us and IKJ/JKF administration, you will understand. The SBG, FSSA, and other organizations have submitted the negotiation paper to the administrators and it has been in the administrator's hands for past 2 days. What is holding them?! If they really, REALLY want the HMB to open again and really, REALLY want to build the bridge between all of us and administrators, they should of worked on the negotiation paper QUICKLY, so you guys can "have the HMB" back. Read http://www.gufssa.com/ What I am trying to say here.. is that you guys should stop and think of how JKF and IKJ have been doing to us all on Gallaudet campus. They are manipulating us all, man!!! They both are the cause of the whole thing, especially the HMB lock-down. If they had heard and listen to THEIR students, faculties, staff, and alumnae they would realize that it is better on the students’, faculties’, staff, and alumnae’s behalf is to have JKF resigned. Look at DPN of 1988, Zinner (however it is spelled) decided that it was better on Gallaudet’s behalf to resign and let the deaf (I insist, the small d, not a capital D) take over the presidency. We accomplished that, although Zinner had boosted a college or university in North Carolina to a very accomplished funded college/university. We applause her and look up on her for giving up the presidency of Gallaudet. Now JFK needs to stop and think what is the best for Gallaudet. What is it? RESIGN! Now, if she had resigned a long time ago, there wouldn’t be the HMB lock-down. She is stubborn and manipulating us all and has caused the whole situation. For an example, the false bomb threat TWICE and accused students for that which is dang false; IKJ bringing his grandson into a DANGEROUS environment (what kind of grandfather with PhD he is!!); not having bridge built between students, faculties, staff, & alumnae and the administrators; the public relation letters sending out to public not made by public relation department; and etc etc etc … If you guys stop and come to HMB to learn and be educated about all crap issues that had been risen between the all of us and IKJ/JKF administration, you will understand. The SBG, FSSA, and other organizations have submitted the negotiation paper to the administrators and it has been in the administrator’s hands for past 2 days. What is holding them?! If they really, REALLY want the HMB to open again and really, REALLY want to build the bridge between all of us and administrators, they should of worked on the negotiation paper QUICKLY, so you guys can “have the HMB” back.

Read http://www.gufssa.com/

]]> By: DeafLinux http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22717 DeafLinux Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:13:56 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22717 I do sympathize with students who wanted to access HMB to pursue their academic studies. I think students should not block HMB access for those who came to Gallaudet to get an education. Protesters do have a point and using HMB building is not a good choice but outside of the president's office is a perfect place to demonstrate. Let the students in HMB and resume their studies. Accreditation agency requires a number of hours inside the classroom to obtain official academic credits. This is not worth jeopardizing the student’s academic attendances’. Another thing to ponder is that not every student agrees with the protestors on the HMB issue. I do sympathize with students who wanted to access HMB to pursue their academic studies. I think students should not block HMB access for those who came to Gallaudet to get an education.

Protesters do have a point and using HMB building is not a good choice but outside of the president’s office is a perfect place to demonstrate.

Let the students in HMB and resume their studies. Accreditation agency requires a number of hours inside the classroom to obtain official academic credits. This is not worth jeopardizing the student’s academic attendances’.

Another thing to ponder is that not every student agrees with the protestors on the HMB issue.

]]> By: mcconnell http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22714 mcconnell Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:52:54 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/guest-blogger/2006-10-09/concerned-students-take-a-stand/#comment-22714 In short, the hijacking of HMB has the potential to affect a student's career and opportunity in the future. It could be as simple as getting a "B" rather than an "A" that could mean the difference in getting a scholarship, internship, or a job position. It can have a compounding effect on students, especially graduate or doctoral students, the longer this hijacking continues. It's a very simpleton thinking that it's a matter of relocating a class to another building when HMB houses a good majority of graduates or doctoral students. And what protesters in HMB are saying to graduates and doctoral students who want access to HMB to continue with their studying and work is "Screw you". Not a way to win support from them for the overall protest message. In short, the hijacking of HMB has the potential to affect a student’s career and opportunity in the future. It could be as simple as getting a “B” rather than an “A” that could mean the difference in getting a scholarship, internship, or a job position. It can have a compounding effect on students, especially graduate or doctoral students, the longer this hijacking continues.

It’s a very simpleton thinking that it’s a matter of relocating a class to another building when HMB houses a good majority of graduates or doctoral students. And what protesters in HMB are saying to graduates and doctoral students who want access to HMB to continue with their studying and work is “Screw you”.

Not a way to win support from them for the overall protest message.

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