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		<title>By: David Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2007-02-07/take-one-away-and-what-are-you-left-with/#comment-78790</link>
		<dc:creator>David Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm also in this group-- hard of smelling. ;) I can smell very strong odors, or distinctive smells, but I have trouble with smell in general. I agree with JJ Puorro-- this is the one sense I think I could definitely learn to live without.

I agree-- great post, Erin. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also in this group&#8211; hard of smelling. ;) I can smell very strong odors, or distinctive smells, but I have trouble with smell in general. I agree with JJ Puorro&#8211; this is the one sense I think I could definitely learn to live without.</p>
<p>I agree&#8211; great post, Erin. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Becca</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2007-02-07/take-one-away-and-what-are-you-left-with/#comment-78752</link>
		<dc:creator>Becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 05:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katherine- I don't have a sense of smell either (except if I get a whiff from nail polish remover, but no one wants to do that.). And I get asked the same questions as you do. I also have to elbaorate that I "REALLY" can't smell, not just "oh I have a stuffed nose" ;-)

Back to the original poster, Erin- very lovely entry, well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katherine- I don&#8217;t have a sense of smell either (except if I get a whiff from nail polish remover, but no one wants to do that.). And I get asked the same questions as you do. I also have to elbaorate that I &#8220;REALLY&#8221; can&#8217;t smell, not just &#8220;oh I have a stuffed nose&#8221; ;-)</p>
<p>Back to the original poster, Erin- very lovely entry, well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2007-02-07/take-one-away-and-what-are-you-left-with/#comment-78749</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 04:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would put some Vicks ointment on below my nose when I have to work with people who haven't had their baths for days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would put some Vicks ointment on below my nose when I have to work with people who haven&#8217;t had their baths for days.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sage</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2007-02-07/take-one-away-and-what-are-you-left-with/#comment-78682</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, this is a beautiful example of how we often take our senses for granted.  Maybe you'll feel differently when you meet someone who wishes she had the ability to smell when she was alone in a burning building.  I'm not saying that being able to smell is more or less important than being able to see or hear, but it is a necessity for some people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, this is a beautiful example of how we often take our senses for granted.  Maybe you&#8217;ll feel differently when you meet someone who wishes she had the ability to smell when she was alone in a burning building.  I&#8217;m not saying that being able to smell is more or less important than being able to see or hear, but it is a necessity for some people.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2007-02-07/take-one-away-and-what-are-you-left-with/#comment-78659</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rose- I do see how listening to music is a HUGE deal to a lot of people. It's culture. It's a creation of something beautiful. It's a mixture of all kinds of sounds making something you can appreciate. I have a friend who's always listening to music. He might not have the radio on, but he has it in his head at all times, he'll be making beats in his head. Music is a HUGE part of the world, whether or not you realize it. 

If you think about it-- it's what brings people together. In churches. In a time of need. In a time of celebration. In a time of rejoice. It's essential, in a way. Whenever there's a tragedy—music is used to bring people together to help raise money. I can see how people would rather choose being blind over being deaf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rose- I do see how listening to music is a HUGE deal to a lot of people. It&#8217;s culture. It&#8217;s a creation of something beautiful. It&#8217;s a mixture of all kinds of sounds making something you can appreciate. I have a friend who&#8217;s always listening to music. He might not have the radio on, but he has it in his head at all times, he&#8217;ll be making beats in his head. Music is a HUGE part of the world, whether or not you realize it. </p>
<p>If you think about it&#8211; it&#8217;s what brings people together. In churches. In a time of need. In a time of celebration. In a time of rejoice. It&#8217;s essential, in a way. Whenever there&#8217;s a tragedy—music is used to bring people together to help raise money. I can see how people would rather choose being blind over being deaf.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2007-02-07/take-one-away-and-what-are-you-left-with/#comment-78635</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember few years ago my former co-worker told me this: before she met me, she would have preferred blind over deaf, but after getting to know me, she said she realized being deaf would be more independent than being blind.  

I don't see how NOT being able to listen to music is a big deal to hearing people.  It is just a bonus to me.  We can make up communication via pagers, e-mails, laptop writing, etc.  Can blind people make up for the their lack of "sight"?  No, they can't.  What do they really enjoy?  Just music and communication??  To me, that doesn't seem enough.  How about the movies, sight-seeing, seeing babies grow up, looking at paintings, etc.??   Yes, I know some blind people can use computer but there is so much limits.  It depends on certain websites that blind people have access to.  My co worker is blind but hearing.  I asked her this question about computer.  She said something that hers is voice-activated.  But is that enough to look at websites: pictures, etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember few years ago my former co-worker told me this: before she met me, she would have preferred blind over deaf, but after getting to know me, she said she realized being deaf would be more independent than being blind.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how NOT being able to listen to music is a big deal to hearing people.  It is just a bonus to me.  We can make up communication via pagers, e-mails, laptop writing, etc.  Can blind people make up for the their lack of &#8220;sight&#8221;?  No, they can&#8217;t.  What do they really enjoy?  Just music and communication??  To me, that doesn&#8217;t seem enough.  How about the movies, sight-seeing, seeing babies grow up, looking at paintings, etc.??   Yes, I know some blind people can use computer but there is so much limits.  It depends on certain websites that blind people have access to.  My co worker is blind but hearing.  I asked her this question about computer.  She said something that hers is voice-activated.  But is that enough to look at websites: pictures, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I prefer to be deaf than blind. Why? Yes I am deaf, true, I also can hear as well. I do enjoy musics and so on but I also often wondered if it is better to be blind or deaf. 
I watched a TV show called "ER" where two doctors (Noah Wyle and Anthony Edwards) were bored and talked back and forth while shooting basketball and they were asked series of questions back and forth Red or Yellow...one would say Red then one would ask Blind or Deaf...Noah Wyle's character said "DEAF".  
I thought a lot after that scene because I have to agree deaf, because thanks to sign language and technology we are no longer "cut away from people".  Not only sound is beautiful sometimes but visually we can see snow, see flowers bloom, watch the sunrise and sunset, see the beauty of a baby's birth, and so on.  Hearing a baby's birth is a lot of "groanings and yellings". No offense to blind people but they prefer to be blind than deaf, which I can understand because they became accustomed to music, people's voices, and so on.
I think Deaf is also an advantage: we sleep so damn good at night and not be awaken by garbage trucks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I prefer to be deaf than blind. Why? Yes I am deaf, true, I also can hear as well. I do enjoy musics and so on but I also often wondered if it is better to be blind or deaf.<br />
I watched a TV show called &#8220;ER&#8221; where two doctors (Noah Wyle and Anthony Edwards) were bored and talked back and forth while shooting basketball and they were asked series of questions back and forth Red or Yellow&#8230;one would say Red then one would ask Blind or Deaf&#8230;Noah Wyle&#8217;s character said &#8220;DEAF&#8221;.<br />
I thought a lot after that scene because I have to agree deaf, because thanks to sign language and technology we are no longer &#8220;cut away from people&#8221;.  Not only sound is beautiful sometimes but visually we can see snow, see flowers bloom, watch the sunrise and sunset, see the beauty of a baby&#8217;s birth, and so on.  Hearing a baby&#8217;s birth is a lot of &#8220;groanings and yellings&#8221;. No offense to blind people but they prefer to be blind than deaf, which I can understand because they became accustomed to music, people&#8217;s voices, and so on.<br />
I think Deaf is also an advantage: we sleep so damn good at night and not be awaken by garbage trucks!</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia L. Beach</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2007-02-07/take-one-away-and-what-are-you-left-with/#comment-78621</link>
		<dc:creator>Virginia L. Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check this link for more info:

http://www.deafdc.com/blog/?p=753</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check this link for more info:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.deafdc.com/blog/?p=753" rel="nofollow">http://www.deafdc.com/blog/?p=753</a></p>
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		<title>By: daveynin</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveynin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you provide the link of Erin mentioned in Post Express website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you provide the link of Erin mentioned in Post Express website?</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia L. Beach</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2007-02-07/take-one-away-and-what-are-you-left-with/#comment-78603</link>
		<dc:creator>Virginia L. Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, I have asked this question to hearing audiences during my "Deaf Culture" presentations a number of times over the years, and the majority have tended to say deaf. Those who did say blind generally did so because of their interest in music...rather than because of their consideration of communication issues, language development, or whatever. 

I think part of the problem is that it is hard for many hearing people to really conceive of what it means to not be able to hear. You can blindfold them and they immediately get a sense of what not being able to see means, and that scares the crap out of most of them. On the other hand, they conceive of deafness as just being this nice quiet solitude where you don't have to deal with all the noise around you. 

But then when I remind them what being deaf really entails - not being able to hear on a cell phone or listen to the radio in your car or understand group conversations at the local bar...then it really starts to dawn on them that there is a lot more to all of this than just the absence of sound. That doesn't mean they necessarily change their minds, but they do start to appreciate what being able to hear is really all about. 

Interestingly enough, tho...I did a presentation once where there were a few blind individuals in the audience and they came up to me afterwards and told me they didn't like my asking that kind of question and found it somewhat offensive. Their point being that it was like comparing apples and oranges...how can you really say that one disability is "better than" or easier to deal with than another? 

Some people deal with losing their hearing quite proactively - perhaps even going so far as to learn sign language, use devices and services such as interpreters and relay and flashing light signalers and pagers, and joining the Deaf Community; while others go through denial and mourn their loss, while researching surgical technologies such as CIs and struggling to get by with rudimentory lipreading skills and what little residual hearing they may still have. I suspect the same thing can be said for those who lose their sight - some will immediately begin learning mobility techniques, begin studying braille, investigate getting a seeing-eye dog and so forth...while others will go through that grieving and struggle to maintain what "normalcy" they can with what limited vision they might still have. 

Failing that, both groups likely withdraw into isolation - fighting deep depression, suicidal thoughts, and increasing distancing from the world around them...be it things or people. 

It's a hard call. I don't think any of us knows how we would deal with losing one of our senses until we are put into a situation where we are forced to confront such - any more than we know how we'd deal with a diagnosis of cancer or multiple sclerosis or alzheimer's. 

Kudos to Erin for a thought-provoking blog, and congrats on getting mentioned in the Post Express!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, I have asked this question to hearing audiences during my &#8220;Deaf Culture&#8221; presentations a number of times over the years, and the majority have tended to say deaf. Those who did say blind generally did so because of their interest in music&#8230;rather than because of their consideration of communication issues, language development, or whatever. </p>
<p>I think part of the problem is that it is hard for many hearing people to really conceive of what it means to not be able to hear. You can blindfold them and they immediately get a sense of what not being able to see means, and that scares the crap out of most of them. On the other hand, they conceive of deafness as just being this nice quiet solitude where you don&#8217;t have to deal with all the noise around you. </p>
<p>But then when I remind them what being deaf really entails - not being able to hear on a cell phone or listen to the radio in your car or understand group conversations at the local bar&#8230;then it really starts to dawn on them that there is a lot more to all of this than just the absence of sound. That doesn&#8217;t mean they necessarily change their minds, but they do start to appreciate what being able to hear is really all about. </p>
<p>Interestingly enough, tho&#8230;I did a presentation once where there were a few blind individuals in the audience and they came up to me afterwards and told me they didn&#8217;t like my asking that kind of question and found it somewhat offensive. Their point being that it was like comparing apples and oranges&#8230;how can you really say that one disability is &#8220;better than&#8221; or easier to deal with than another? </p>
<p>Some people deal with losing their hearing quite proactively - perhaps even going so far as to learn sign language, use devices and services such as interpreters and relay and flashing light signalers and pagers, and joining the Deaf Community; while others go through denial and mourn their loss, while researching surgical technologies such as CIs and struggling to get by with rudimentory lipreading skills and what little residual hearing they may still have. I suspect the same thing can be said for those who lose their sight - some will immediately begin learning mobility techniques, begin studying braille, investigate getting a seeing-eye dog and so forth&#8230;while others will go through that grieving and struggle to maintain what &#8220;normalcy&#8221; they can with what limited vision they might still have. </p>
<p>Failing that, both groups likely withdraw into isolation - fighting deep depression, suicidal thoughts, and increasing distancing from the world around them&#8230;be it things or people. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a hard call. I don&#8217;t think any of us knows how we would deal with losing one of our senses until we are put into a situation where we are forced to confront such - any more than we know how we&#8217;d deal with a diagnosis of cancer or multiple sclerosis or alzheimer&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Kudos to Erin for a thought-provoking blog, and congrats on getting mentioned in the Post Express!</p>
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