Comments on: To get what we want…. http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/ Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:32:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Jane http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-20163 Jane Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:18:21 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-20163 I have to admit that I think us deafies work much harder than our hearing peers. At my job, in my first week, I finished two months' worth of work that I had been assigned. That's in the first three days, actually. My boss was stumped and I realized I had to spend most of the day jacking off in order to keep the same pace with the assignments i was given. so i did, and now everyone is like "you're the best worker we've ever had!" Funny. Kind of. I have to admit that I think us deafies work much harder than our hearing peers. At my job, in my first week, I finished two months’ worth of work that I had been assigned. That’s in the first three days, actually. My boss was stumped and I realized I had to spend most of the day jacking off in order to keep the same pace with the assignments i was given. so i did, and now everyone is like “you’re the best worker we’ve ever had!” Funny. Kind of.

]]> By: Newbie http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-20074 Newbie Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:35:20 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-20074 Maybe I am lucky? I've had co-workers actually come up and try to whisper in my ear, to tell me a secret! It's kind of funny. They close the door to my office and say they don't want other people to hear, so I tell them to just talk to me without their voice. They are puzzled at first and I have no idea if they actually do it. Maybe I am lucky? I’ve had co-workers actually come up and try to whisper in my ear, to tell me a secret! It’s kind of funny. They close the door to my office and say they don’t want other people to hear, so I tell them to just talk to me without their voice. They are puzzled at first and I have no idea if they actually do it.

]]> By: Cloak & Dagger http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-20071 Cloak & Dagger Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:30:42 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-20071 Good post. One thing that is always on my conscience is how other workers see you. For example, when you approach another worker, I can't help but wondering if he or she automatically thinks: "Oh, here's John -the DEAF one. I need to speak slower for him because he has TROUBLE understanding me." That kind of thing. I hate that because I don't want him/her to think that, but most of the time, they can't help it. So, I would need to work harder on making sure I come up sounding intelligent or witty to make them think that I'm just like them and someone they can feel comfortable having a normal conversation just like the others. I'm sure hearing people feel the same way, but it's the speech that deaf people have to work harder. Good post. One thing that is always on my conscience is how other workers see you. For example, when you approach another worker, I can’t help but wondering if he or she automatically thinks: “Oh, here’s John -the DEAF one. I need to speak slower for him because he has TROUBLE understanding me.” That kind of thing. I hate that because I don’t want him/her to think that, but most of the time, they can’t help it.

So, I would need to work harder on making sure I come up sounding intelligent or witty to make them think that I’m just like them and someone they can feel comfortable having a normal conversation just like the others. I’m sure hearing people feel the same way, but it’s the speech that deaf people have to work harder.

]]> By: mcconnell http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-20054 mcconnell Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:54:49 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-20054 So, if a a Deaf group in another country ask the great country of the United States for help and consultation, you would refuse their help outright? The United States is seen as a model, and is an example of many to follow. We have the experience and examples that could be a template for them to follow. But even that they could still need our help. Saying "no" makes us look, well, pretty damn selfish. So, if a a Deaf group in another country ask the great country of the United States for help and consultation, you would refuse their help outright?

The United States is seen as a model, and is an example of many to follow. We have the experience and examples that could be a template for them to follow. But even that they could still need our help. Saying “no” makes us look, well, pretty damn selfish.

]]> By: mcconnell http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19928 mcconnell Fri, 29 Sep 2006 02:02:15 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19928 Has technology brought people closer or further apart? Technology allowing greater access for deaf and hh people has just barely begun. We're not even at the tip of the iceberg, so to speak. Technology will allow us in the not-so-distant future to socialize at the physical level (meaning face to face in person) with anybody we wish to associate with. I disagree with the social disassociation with the community at large. We are, in fact, making inroads into that community at large (hearing and deaf) allowing us greater interaction that was never really the case 5 or 10 years ago. As the old saying goes, we ain't seen nothing yet. Has technology brought people closer or further apart? Technology allowing greater access for deaf and hh people has just barely begun. We’re not even at the tip of the iceberg, so to speak. Technology will allow us in the not-so-distant future to socialize at the physical level (meaning face to face in person) with anybody we wish to associate with.

I disagree with the social disassociation with the community at large. We are, in fact, making inroads into that community at large (hearing and deaf) allowing us greater interaction that was never really the case 5 or 10 years ago.

As the old saying goes, we ain’t seen nothing yet.

]]> By: RLM http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19849 RLM Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:56:26 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19849 We, deaf people have been politically and socioeconomic apathetic over decades. We tend to pre-occupy with our own lives by technopoly (overdependency on technology) which cause severe disassociation with the community at large. Deaf Washington (DC)community at large is a major dysfunctional and uninterested community. We, deaf people are not only experiencing the social disassociation with the community at large. Other segements of population in general also experience the same things. I repeat "technopoly" which we usually let ourselves wrapped up around technological stuff and dehumanize our own existence as deaf people to be part of socioeconomic and political activism hub. We, deaf people have been politically and socioeconomic apathetic over decades. We tend to pre-occupy with our own lives by technopoly (overdependency on technology) which cause severe disassociation with the community at large.

Deaf Washington (DC)community at large is a major dysfunctional and uninterested community. We, deaf people are not only experiencing the social disassociation with the community at large. Other segements of population in general also experience the same things.

I repeat “technopoly” which we usually let ourselves wrapped up around technological stuff and dehumanize our own existence as deaf people to be part of socioeconomic and political activism hub.

]]> By: WAD http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19770 WAD Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:37:52 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19770 Yes on technology and I want to add one more: people. For instance, Rochester has seven deaf doctors, one deaf dentist, hundreds of skilled interpreters, one deaf vet, and many more to name. p.s. I meant to reply to comment #19762 Here's an article printed in Rochester's newspaper this week. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060927/OPINION02/609270342/1039/OPINION Yes on technology and I want to add one more: people. For instance, Rochester has seven deaf doctors, one deaf dentist, hundreds of skilled interpreters, one deaf vet, and many more to name.

p.s. I meant to reply to comment #19762
Here’s an article printed in Rochester’s newspaper this week.

http://www.democratandchronicl.....39/OPINION

]]> By: Noelle http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19766 Noelle Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:13:57 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19766 I think a bifurcated approach weakens us now--there are too many balls in the air to speak when we try that approach. It's up to the citizens of those countries to engineer their own disability rights movement. We had to do it on our own here and we're continuing doing so without any outside international help. I think a bifurcated approach weakens us now–there are too many balls in the air to speak when we try that approach. It’s up to the citizens of those countries to engineer their own disability rights movement. We had to do it on our own here and we’re continuing doing so without any outside international help.

]]> By: mcconnell http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19762 mcconnell Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:02:08 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19762 Technology itself will help make the biggest change and leap across all boundaries and countries. Technology itself will help make the biggest change and leap across all boundaries and countries.

]]> By: mcconnell http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19760 mcconnell Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:01:15 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-09-27/to-get-what-we-want/#comment-19760 Um...you can do both. No reason to wait until we're smugly comfortable with our access before helping others. Um…you can do both. No reason to wait until we’re smugly comfortable with our access before helping others.

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