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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-334</guid>
		<description>When my parents enrolled me into Maryland School for the Deaf in 1985, they actually had to fight to get me in.  At the time, new students had to have 70 dB or greater hearing loss to enroll.  I had 65 dB in one ear and about 70 dB in another ear so my parents had to use the debate that I was a visual learner who needed to go to Maryland School for the Deaf.

It would have been cool if my brother enrolled with me into Maryland School for the Deaf, but they rejected him because his hearing was greater than mine.  When he reached high school, he could only go to Model Secondary School for the Deaf because their rules were more flexible.

Guess what... now the rules have changed and basically anyone with hearing loss who learns visually has a chance of enrolling at Maryland School for the Deaf.

This is yet another example of how the audiology definition of deafness sometimes clashes with the cultural definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my parents enrolled me into Maryland School for the Deaf in 1985, they actually had to fight to get me in.  At the time, new students had to have 70 dB or greater hearing loss to enroll.  I had 65 dB in one ear and about 70 dB in another ear so my parents had to use the debate that I was a visual learner who needed to go to Maryland School for the Deaf.</p>
<p>It would have been cool if my brother enrolled with me into Maryland School for the Deaf, but they rejected him because his hearing was greater than mine.  When he reached high school, he could only go to Model Secondary School for the Deaf because their rules were more flexible.</p>
<p>Guess what&#8230; now the rules have changed and basically anyone with hearing loss who learns visually has a chance of enrolling at Maryland School for the Deaf.</p>
<p>This is yet another example of how the audiology definition of deafness sometimes clashes with the cultural definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-333</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-333</guid>
		<description>Don't get me started with CapTel.  I've been trying for over a year to get it for my work and home.  Every request of mine has been denied because 1) I'm not a resident or employed in Maryland, 2) I'm not a resident or employed in Virginia, and 3) I'm not employed by the Federal government or meet any of the qualifications to use the Federal Relay Service.  So where can a DC resident who works in DC go to get CapTel?  The answer is nowhere!

Why is DC of all places behind with getting CapTel especially when there's a large Deaf community that lives and works here, not to mention it's also the home for Gallaudet University?  36 other states plus the Federal government already offer CapTel.

It's also ironic that NY, where RIT/NTID is located doesn't offer CapTel either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me started with CapTel.  I&#8217;ve been trying for over a year to get it for my work and home.  Every request of mine has been denied because 1) I&#8217;m not a resident or employed in Maryland, 2) I&#8217;m not a resident or employed in Virginia, and 3) I&#8217;m not employed by the Federal government or meet any of the qualifications to use the Federal Relay Service.  So where can a DC resident who works in DC go to get CapTel?  The answer is nowhere!</p>
<p>Why is DC of all places behind with getting CapTel especially when there&#8217;s a large Deaf community that lives and works here, not to mention it&#8217;s also the home for Gallaudet University?  36 other states plus the Federal government already offer CapTel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also ironic that NY, where RIT/NTID is located doesn&#8217;t offer CapTel either.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 04:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-332</guid>
		<description>Intelligent, out-going, fun-loving, resourceful and hard working are a just a few things that describe me.  I am also hard of hearing.  I've never considered myself deaf.  Although unaided I have very little hearing.  I grew up in N.C. and as a child was diagnosed with a mild hearing problem.  In my town anyone who didnt hearing near perfectly were considered "deaf". And because it wasnt common.... it was "taboo".  My family was completely opposite of Erin's.  Instead of encouraging me to embrace and accept my disability...I was told to "not claim" it.  I've always been ashamed of my disability until I moved to the DC area...where I've met people who are confident and comfortable with themselves.  Because I've spent so many years trying to project myself the way I felt people perceived me.....it has always been a struggle living in between worlds.  Even though I can hear.  I can't understand everything...so to the hearing I am deaf.  And because I don't use ASL...but read lips...I'm oral deaf.  Then to some who are deaf...I'm hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intelligent, out-going, fun-loving, resourceful and hard working are a just a few things that describe me.  I am also hard of hearing.  I&#8217;ve never considered myself deaf.  Although unaided I have very little hearing.  I grew up in N.C. and as a child was diagnosed with a mild hearing problem.  In my town anyone who didnt hearing near perfectly were considered &#8220;deaf&#8221;. And because it wasnt common&#8230;. it was &#8220;taboo&#8221;.  My family was completely opposite of Erin&#8217;s.  Instead of encouraging me to embrace and accept my disability&#8230;I was told to &#8220;not claim&#8221; it.  I&#8217;ve always been ashamed of my disability until I moved to the DC area&#8230;where I&#8217;ve met people who are confident and comfortable with themselves.  Because I&#8217;ve spent so many years trying to project myself the way I felt people perceived me&#8230;..it has always been a struggle living in between worlds.  Even though I can hear.  I can&#8217;t understand everything&#8230;so to the hearing I am deaf.  And because I don&#8217;t use ASL&#8230;but read lips&#8230;I&#8217;m oral deaf.  Then to some who are deaf&#8230;I&#8217;m hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-331</guid>
		<description>"in-between," "being in the middle" -- these are positions that often cause one to question one's identity.  

I do this too.  I grew up hearing (began losing hearing at age 9) and now still speak well and have hearing friends/family, even as I love ASL and my Deaf friends.  Sometimes it can feel like you have a split identity and never fully belong anywhere.  I prefer to think of it as belonging to more than one community.

FWIW, other cultures have this too.  For example, in Nella Larsen's *Qucksand* (1928), she describes a light-skinned woman who tries living in various places -- a black school, Chicago, Harlem, Europe -- and never quite finds a place where she is completely understood and appreciated.  

But as in the black community, I think most deaf people are quite understanding about liminal identities, because so many of us ("late-deafened," "hard of hearing," "CIs who just learned sign," etc.) have them.

Erin, have you tried the new Captel phone?  I use it to talk to my Mom every week -- it's great -- provides full captioned text of what the other person says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;in-between,&#8221; &#8220;being in the middle&#8221; &#8212; these are positions that often cause one to question one&#8217;s identity.  </p>
<p>I do this too.  I grew up hearing (began losing hearing at age 9) and now still speak well and have hearing friends/family, even as I love ASL and my Deaf friends.  Sometimes it can feel like you have a split identity and never fully belong anywhere.  I prefer to think of it as belonging to more than one community.</p>
<p>FWIW, other cultures have this too.  For example, in Nella Larsen&#8217;s *Qucksand* (1928), she describes a light-skinned woman who tries living in various places &#8212; a black school, Chicago, Harlem, Europe &#8212; and never quite finds a place where she is completely understood and appreciated.  </p>
<p>But as in the black community, I think most deaf people are quite understanding about liminal identities, because so many of us (&#8221;late-deafened,&#8221; &#8220;hard of hearing,&#8221; &#8220;CIs who just learned sign,&#8221; etc.) have them.</p>
<p>Erin, have you tried the new Captel phone?  I use it to talk to my Mom every week &#8212; it&#8217;s great &#8212; provides full captioned text of what the other person says.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-328</guid>
		<description>Being in the middle is the hardest thing.  I feel like I'm in the twilight zone switching back and forth between the Deaf and hearing communities.  I'm Deaf... until someone sees me talking on the phone then I'm hard-of-hearing.  It's not about how much I can hear or my degree of hearing loss.  So what if I can talk on the phone.  So what if I wear hearing aids.  So what if I went to Georgetown University instead of Gallaudet University like most Deaf people.  I'm Deaf because I choose to be Deaf and not because someone uses the medical definition of deafness to label me hard of hearing.

Although I believe most Deaf people are accepting of me, there are some who get in my face about not going to Gallaudet University and following in my dad's footsteps.  The truth is I have always believed I needed to get a different perspective to bring back to the Deaf community.  I grew up going to Kendall School then Maryland School for the Deaf all my adolescent life.  My parents are Deaf and I've socialized almost entirely with Deaf people all my life.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.  It's just that now with technology and, hopefully, increasing acceptance from the hearing community, Deaf people have more opportunities to make their legacy than in the past.

I think a good example is the African American community.  Colleges like Howard University helped advance the African American community and helped gain their acceptance in mainstream America.  The African American pioneers made it possible for African Americans to go to any college in America and work in any profession they desire.  The Deaf community is experiencing this phenomenon now thanks to Gallaudet University and the Deaf President Now (DPN) protest.

So next time any of you want to get in my face about me not going to Gallaudet University, just remember that I only used the opportunity that many Deaf pioneers, including my father, have fought so hard to give to the Deaf community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being in the middle is the hardest thing.  I feel like I&#8217;m in the twilight zone switching back and forth between the Deaf and hearing communities.  I&#8217;m Deaf&#8230; until someone sees me talking on the phone then I&#8217;m hard-of-hearing.  It&#8217;s not about how much I can hear or my degree of hearing loss.  So what if I can talk on the phone.  So what if I wear hearing aids.  So what if I went to Georgetown University instead of Gallaudet University like most Deaf people.  I&#8217;m Deaf because I choose to be Deaf and not because someone uses the medical definition of deafness to label me hard of hearing.</p>
<p>Although I believe most Deaf people are accepting of me, there are some who get in my face about not going to Gallaudet University and following in my dad&#8217;s footsteps.  The truth is I have always believed I needed to get a different perspective to bring back to the Deaf community.  I grew up going to Kendall School then Maryland School for the Deaf all my adolescent life.  My parents are Deaf and I&#8217;ve socialized almost entirely with Deaf people all my life.  Not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with that.  It&#8217;s just that now with technology and, hopefully, increasing acceptance from the hearing community, Deaf people have more opportunities to make their legacy than in the past.</p>
<p>I think a good example is the African American community.  Colleges like Howard University helped advance the African American community and helped gain their acceptance in mainstream America.  The African American pioneers made it possible for African Americans to go to any college in America and work in any profession they desire.  The Deaf community is experiencing this phenomenon now thanks to Gallaudet University and the Deaf President Now (DPN) protest.</p>
<p>So next time any of you want to get in my face about me not going to Gallaudet University, just remember that I only used the opportunity that many Deaf pioneers, including my father, have fought so hard to give to the Deaf community.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-327</guid>
		<description>I always feel in between. I love to be around my deaf friends who get me to the core. But i also love to be around my hearing friends who expose me to things I wouldn't expose myself to (mostly when it comes to music). 

I mention it because some people have pointed it out to me why didn't i post that I'm deaf on my online profile? or some assume that I want to date a deaf person. so it made me feel compelled to say, you know it's not how i identify myself first. it's like 4th or 5th on my list, when it comes to describing who i am.   

dc is a good city has that mix of both. that's why i like it here. it's easy to meet people in both cultures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always feel in between. I love to be around my deaf friends who get me to the core. But i also love to be around my hearing friends who expose me to things I wouldn&#8217;t expose myself to (mostly when it comes to music). </p>
<p>I mention it because some people have pointed it out to me why didn&#8217;t i post that I&#8217;m deaf on my online profile? or some assume that I want to date a deaf person. so it made me feel compelled to say, you know it&#8217;s not how i identify myself first. it&#8217;s like 4th or 5th on my list, when it comes to describing who i am.   </p>
<p>dc is a good city has that mix of both. that&#8217;s why i like it here. it&#8217;s easy to meet people in both cultures.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie T.</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-326</guid>
		<description>It's been my experience (from personal observation) that those who think often about their identity are usually the least satisfied of all.  Could you be more concerned of how others perceive you- as opposed to your self-perception? Either way, you're living in just the right place if you want to feel either "lost" or "found".  I love DC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been my experience (from personal observation) that those who think often about their identity are usually the least satisfied of all.  Could you be more concerned of how others perceive you- as opposed to your self-perception? Either way, you&#8217;re living in just the right place if you want to feel either &#8220;lost&#8221; or &#8220;found&#8221;.  I love DC!</p>
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		<title>By: Elisa</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-325</guid>
		<description>Researchers (especially cultural studies/enthography) are working hard to gain acceptance for DEAF as a cultural/ethnic label rather than an auditory one. so if you feel that you are part of the Deaf culture, go ahead and call yourself Deaf -- it doesn't matter how much you can or can't hear. But if you feel that you are more culturally "hearing" than Deaf, then I guess you can describe yourself as someone with hearing loss. My point -- i don't think people should let their high hearing ability interfere with their ability to call themselves Deaf. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Researchers (especially cultural studies/enthography) are working hard to gain acceptance for DEAF as a cultural/ethnic label rather than an auditory one. so if you feel that you are part of the Deaf culture, go ahead and call yourself Deaf &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t matter how much you can or can&#8217;t hear. But if you feel that you are more culturally &#8220;hearing&#8221; than Deaf, then I guess you can describe yourself as someone with hearing loss. My point &#8212; i don&#8217;t think people should let their high hearing ability interfere with their ability to call themselves Deaf. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Alli</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>Alli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-himmelmann/2006-02-23/something-i-tip-toe-around/#comment-321</guid>
		<description>I'm not quite sure I get why you posted this or why you feel the need to "tip toe."  I'm assuming it's important enough to you, since you put it out there in the public eye.

While reading, I sensed a sort of discomfort with your situation.  My problem is, I don't see anything wrong or uncomfortable about the way you lead your life.  Maybe it's because you feel there's pressure to either label yourself as either gung-ho culturally capital D deaf or as a woman who happens to have a hearing loss (which obviously still does have its impact) living her life in the big wide world?

If so, I'd like to venture that you're far from alone and that those who insist on a line defining the either/or of your existence can go impose their views on someone else.  As long as you're happy, your life and identity is just fine the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure I get why you posted this or why you feel the need to &#8220;tip toe.&#8221;  I&#8217;m assuming it&#8217;s important enough to you, since you put it out there in the public eye.</p>
<p>While reading, I sensed a sort of discomfort with your situation.  My problem is, I don&#8217;t see anything wrong or uncomfortable about the way you lead your life.  Maybe it&#8217;s because you feel there&#8217;s pressure to either label yourself as either gung-ho culturally capital D deaf or as a woman who happens to have a hearing loss (which obviously still does have its impact) living her life in the big wide world?</p>
<p>If so, I&#8217;d like to venture that you&#8217;re far from alone and that those who insist on a line defining the either/or of your existence can go impose their views on someone else.  As long as you&#8217;re happy, your life and identity is just fine the way it is.</p>
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