Comments on: It’s For Your Own Good, Kids http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/ Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:26:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Ed http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77253 Ed Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:58:23 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77253 KJ had an oppty to bow out gracefully and acknowledge the wishes of the teeming masses of students, faculty, ex-students, graduates, and generally most folks with hearing loss. It is unfortunate that he lost it. I would be very curious to see what historians will write about KJ - would history be forgiving and elevate him to greatness, or write him off as a bungling, inefficient and any negative adjectives as a Prexy of Gally? Or would history write him off as a bitter and spiteful emeritus prexy? As result of the student protests, the clarity of his past actions became all too obvious and at times painful to see that we've overlooked for so long or were prevented from raising the issues to the public (perhaps by political manipulations, constraints, threats (?), etc., by him or his loyal supporters). On my part, I think I would be more forgiving in writing history as he did bring in lot of $$ than any prexy of the past; he did not destroy Gallaudet University; and I think a few of his actions were commendable. However, I would not elevate him to the greatness, but would give him the credit on issues where he should be given the credit. Student protest should not destroy everything about KJ; it has done enough job of downgrading him from perceived great to all-too-real characteristic of KJ where it should be now. The irony of all this, though, it seems KJ is bend on destroying himself as his letter clearly indicate. He is to be pitied. KJ had an oppty to bow out gracefully and acknowledge the wishes of the teeming masses of students, faculty, ex-students, graduates, and generally most folks with hearing loss. It is unfortunate that he lost it. I would be very curious to see what historians will write about KJ - would history be forgiving and elevate him to greatness, or write him off as a bungling, inefficient and any negative adjectives as a Prexy of Gally? Or would history write him off as a bitter and spiteful emeritus prexy? As result of the student protests, the clarity of his past actions became all too obvious and at times painful to see that we’ve overlooked for so long or were prevented from raising the issues to the public (perhaps by political manipulations, constraints, threats (?), etc., by him or his loyal supporters).

On my part, I think I would be more forgiving in writing history as he did bring in lot of $$ than any prexy of the past; he did not destroy Gallaudet University; and I think a few of his actions were commendable. However, I would not elevate him to the greatness, but would give him the credit on issues where he should be given the credit. Student protest should not destroy everything about KJ; it has done enough job of downgrading him from perceived great to all-too-real characteristic of KJ where it should be now.

The irony of all this, though, it seems KJ is bend on destroying himself as his letter clearly indicate. He is to be pitied.

]]> By: DeafLinux http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77238 DeafLinux Thu, 25 Jan 2007 07:03:15 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77238 I. King Jordan mentioned to people. I think its on video somewhere. He does not want to retire also he said he loved his job. I recall someone in the government was questioning his salary. I hope someone here can shed some light. I. King Jordan mentioned to people. I think its on video somewhere. He does not want to retire also he said he loved his job. I recall someone in the government was questioning his salary.

I hope someone here can shed some light.

]]> By: Juan A. Vietorisz http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77230 Juan A. Vietorisz Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:58:41 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77230 I may be wrong, and I often am, but never in doubt (just kidding). I don't know about you or anybody else, but I think it's perfectly all right to make nasty comments about a third person, whoever that person may be (e.g., IJK, President Bush, Hillary Clinton, etc.), as long as that person is not one of the participants in the blog discussion. I may be wrong, and I often am, but never in doubt (just kidding). I don’t know about you or anybody else, but I think it’s perfectly all right to make nasty comments about a third person, whoever that person may be (e.g., IJK, President Bush, Hillary Clinton, etc.), as long as that person is not one of the participants in the blog discussion.

]]> By: A Deaf Pundit http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77217 A Deaf Pundit Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:40:04 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77217 This is the first I've heard of him being forced to retire or retired early. What's this based on? This is the first I’ve heard of him being forced to retire or retired early. What’s this based on?

]]> By: Johan http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77216 Johan Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:18:46 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77216 Isnt this post against the blog standards to call out names and threaten people? Isnt this post against the blog standards to call out names and threaten people?

]]> By: Milo Recuerdo http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77189 Milo Recuerdo Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:50:47 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77189 Ridor, I was being sarcastic about him being an expert of deaf culture. Deaf Pundit, your point is well taken. But, he doesn't need a team of advisors to write what he thinks. And this is an op/ed piece. Just like us, he has every right to express an opinion now that he's free to do so. You have to admit, it is interesting to finally read what he really thinks or feels in retrospect. I still didn't like what he wrote. Ridor, I was being sarcastic about him being an expert of deaf culture. Deaf Pundit, your point is well taken. But, he doesn’t need a team of advisors to write what he thinks. And this is an op/ed piece. Just like us, he has every right to express an opinion now that he’s free to do so. You have to admit, it is interesting to finally read what he really thinks or feels in retrospect. I still didn’t like what he wrote.

]]> By: Mishkazena http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77185 Mishkazena Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:18:16 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77185 I was told that Jordan retired two years earlier than planned. How do you know he was forced to retire? I was told that Jordan retired two years earlier than planned. How do you know he was forced to retire?

]]> By: DeafLinux http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77177 DeafLinux Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:30:28 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77177 Why a lot of people assume that I. King Jordan retired on his own. He WAS forced to retire and that needs to be investigated. So the media can get accurate facts. Also, why was he forced to retire was it because of accountability issues with the U.S. Department of Education (OSERS)? If this is true then people need to know this. He is digging a hole and using flamethrowers on D/deaf people. This is a sign of his last fall at Kendall Green. Why a lot of people assume that I. King Jordan retired on his own. He WAS forced to retire and that needs to be investigated. So the media can get accurate facts. Also, why was he forced to retire was it because of accountability issues with the U.S. Department of Education (OSERS)? If this is true then people need to know this. He is digging a hole and using flamethrowers on D/deaf people. This is a sign of his last fall at Kendall Green.

]]> By: Erick Ketcham http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77176 Erick Ketcham Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:17:17 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77176 Erin, With all due respect, there is NO validity in the comments Jordan made in the papers. He is an audist, an idiot, and an enemy of the Deaf community. Jordan is just angry that he lost in the end, and he is screaming for help in the Quicksand Of Obscurity of which he is quickly drowning into. Since he is still employed by Gallaudet... He is contradicting Gallaudet"s commitment to "heal". The one thing that puzzles me: Why has he not been fired yet? He does not deserve the President Emeritus status. Jordan knows he will not ever be fully accepted in the hearing community, because the reality of life: we are surrounded by audists 24 hours, 7 days a week. It is a FACT. Since his hearing is not perfect, he will not be accepted. And guess what, I. King Jerkhole? You have lost acceptance in the other and only community that had previously welcomed you with open arms. You, Jordan, are going to hell all by yourself. Erin,

With all due respect, there is NO validity in the comments Jordan made in the papers. He is an audist, an idiot, and an enemy of the Deaf community.

Jordan is just angry that he lost in the end, and he is screaming for help in the Quicksand Of Obscurity of which he is quickly drowning into.

Since he is still employed by Gallaudet… He is contradicting Gallaudet”s commitment to “heal”.

The one thing that puzzles me: Why has he not been fired yet? He does not deserve the President Emeritus status.

Jordan knows he will not ever be fully accepted in the hearing community, because the reality of life: we are surrounded by audists 24 hours, 7 days a week. It is a FACT. Since his hearing is not perfect, he will not be accepted.

And guess what, I. King Jerkhole? You have lost acceptance in the other and only community that had previously welcomed you with open arms. You, Jordan, are going to hell all by yourself.

]]> By: Paul Kelly's dungeon animals http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77166 Paul Kelly's dungeon animals Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:47:04 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/erin-casler/2007-01-23/it%e2%80%99s-for-your-own-good-kids/#comment-77166 It's painfully obvious Paul Kelly wrote it for Irving. It’s painfully obvious Paul Kelly wrote it for Irving.

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