In a sense, Dr. Jane K. Fernandes was right. To paraphrase what she told the Washington Post, she just happened to be the woman standing next to the volcano when it erupted.
A volcano erupts when pressure builds up in its recesses. The pressure causes magma–molten rock–to force its way to the surface. Eruptions can be caused by gas bubbles from chemical processes, or by more magma crashing the house party from deeper inside the earth. The magma in the volcano chamber is just waiting for a little incentive to blow. In this case, the incentive—unfortunately—was Dr. Fernandes’ selection as the next president of Gallaudet University.
This eruption happened in the middle of a cultural earthquake. Postcolonial theory recently started to trickle down from academia and influence how people inside the deaf community understood themselves. Theories of oppression and marginalization are beginning to seep into the deaf community’s collective consciousness. Basically, words such as “deafhood” and “audism” escaped from academic discourse and found their way to the deaf club.
Now, deaf people are angry. We finally understand just how much the world does not want to make room for us.
The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), signed into law by President George H. Bush in 1990, promised a world where deaf people had equal access. In the post-ADA and post-Deaf President Now era, we have bitterly come to realize that the famous words said by Dr. I. King Jordan, first deaf president of Gallaudet University, “Deaf people can do anything but hear” were a lie. It’s not his fault. It was a hopeful lie. He believed it…and we desperately wanted to believe him.
We wanted to believe that after DPN and ADA, the world understood, and would make room for us.
In April 2006, sixteen years after ADA was signed into law, a doctor refused me service because he did not want to pay for an interpreter. In May 2006, ignorant hearing people called in to a NPR show celebrating the legacy of Dr. Jordan to complain about the high cost of interpreting services. Deaf people died in Hurricane Katrina because emergency communications broadcasts were not closed-captioned. It’s over a year later. They’re still not closed-captioned.
Last year, I met a woman who worked for the Human Rights Campaign—an organization that works for gay, bisexual and lesbian equality and has in their mission statement, HRC strives to end discrimination…and realize a nation that achieves fundamental fairness and equality for all. In an attempt to connect with me (or more likely, to pick me up, it was a gay bar), she grasped at the only deaf connection she had. She told me that the HRC had a deaf intern working there who was “really good.” She then added, “But he wasn’t considered for a permanent job.” I asked her why, and she said, “He just didn’t fit in.” When I pressed her further, she admitted that it was just too difficult to communicate with him.
The little things. It’s the little things.
My humanity is taken away from me when people dismiss me in tiny little ways. It’s unbelievable…the frustration I feel when my flight has been moved to another gate and the gate agent won’t take the time to write down where I should go, just waving me off as someone else steps up to take my space in the line. The rage I feel when the person behind the counter gives me a look, like I’m stupid, after I ask for a pen. The helplessness I feel when a cab slows down, and then speeds off when I proffer paper with the destination written on it. The words I want to shout at the people who have mistreated me but don’t because I refuse to give anyone an opportunity to look at me as less than human because my speech is not clear and sounds different.
What I hate the most though, is when someone has more power than I do because she can hear and talk. She can barely read or write but that doesn’t matter, right? She can talk. And talk, she does, for me, as I depend on a sign language interpreter. I must grit my teeth as her voice says, “We are giving Board of Trustees evil eye,” when I actually signed, “We are going to closely monitor the Board of Trustees.” (This didn’t actually happen to me but I did see this on the news recently, and who knows how many more misunderstandings have happened since interpreting became a profession) It’s always a crapshoot, waiting to see who shows up to interpret for you.
To hearing people who don’t use sign language, I am nothing without that voice. There is an empty space where my thoughts and feelings should be. They can project whatever they want onto that space, and they do.
Put together countless dehumanizing little things like this happening and a group that has just had its consciousness raised, you get a volcano. It is terrible, what happened to the woman standing next to the volcano, but the anger that burnt her to a crisp is real. It wasn’t identity politics. It was many and many lifetimes of not having a voice because, who’s going to pay for that voice? And even then, there’s no guarantee that voice’s going to say what you really mean.
That, my friends, is why the signing deaf community united against Dr. Fernandes.
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Excellent post with a lot of truths in it. By the way, I didn’t know you had changed your name to Adam? :)
It was too difficult to communicate because of the pen and paper going back and forth or the constant need for an interpreter? What?
All of the above. I think that if you read between the lines, they just didn’t want to deal with anybody who was “more work.” They wanted someone who they could easily and directly talk to verbally. I’m just guessing, though.
This is common, even with high-achieving deaf professionals. You just have to find the right people who are willing and more patient.
I know what you mean about the irony of people working for human rights excluding people who are different from them. I know of a deaf individual who volunteered at a soup kitchen for homeless people one day. There were no problems, and the kitchen manager was glad to have the help. The next time this person volunteered a different manager was on site. This manager refused to consider having the deaf person help because of “safety reasons.” No ifs, ands, or buts. Ironic that someone who is committed to helping marginalized people - people who are homeless - was so quick to marginalize someone who was deaf. I’m sure this kitchen manager - like the Human Rights Campaign person - didn’t even realize that was what she was doing. Which makes it so much harder to fight.
Erin, I think you’ve captured the recent situation at Gallaudet very well. I couldn’t have said it better. I would add that not only was Dr. Fernandes standing next to the volcano, she (and King Jordan) provoked the burst with their campaign against the protesters, as well as their dismissal of the deep issues in favor of the NDE argument.
Ugh Erin, reality check- it wasn’t just the signing deaf community that united against Jane. That was a poor ending Erin and you know it.
Theories of oppression!?! I hope this was a brain blip on your part.
Hey Foof. What’s with the acrimony? By no means am I suggesting that I’m the expert on this but I AM offering up my own personal perspective for discussion.
I always appreicate constructive criticism and I’m willing to engage in a dialogue but I don’t completely understand you’re getting at, because this comment seemed to be more about insulting me than actually articulating an alternative point of view, but I will try to respond to what I think your concerns may be.
My intent was not to discuss the various subgroups involved in this. My point was that I believe that deep-seated anger at being marginalized was a driving force of this movement.
As for your second point, I’m not sure what you meant but I was referring to a body of thought based on the works of bell hooks, Memmi, Franz Fanon, Foucault, etc. when I mentioned theories of oppression.
I enjoyed reading this piece because it was passionately written (not something you see in many bloggers) and I could personally relate to many parts of it.
I am a bit confused by your conclusion, which seems to imply that there is a direct connection between Fernandes herself and the “real” purpose behind this apparent mutiny. Was she oppressing the voices because they were not “real”? But then again, that’s just my first, instinctive take on the article; I have never experienced Fernandes so I may not be fully qualified to judge.
Hey Julie, thank you for your nice comment. My intent was to attempt to explain why I thought this movement resonated with so many deaf people. I mean, people flew in from places such as Denmark, California and Italy to join the movement.
This was much bigger than Gallaudet University.
I’m trying to understand the passion this aroused in so many different people from different backgrounds. What united them all? It can’t just be Dr. Fernandes… I can’t believe that ONE person can inspire so much anger, especially in this age of apathy. I believe the anger stems from the collective oppression and voicelessness we experience in our daily lives.
THAT is what bonds deaf people. That is why so many deaf people were invested in this. This saga was a reflection of the reality of the deaf experience. A distorted one, perhaps, but a reflection, nevertheless.
You are correct. This thing is much bigger than Gallaudet University. I had been wondering just what was the common thread among those who unified against Fernandes; use of sign language seems to be A rather popular criterion, but not quite THE. Still, the experiences you described also are felt by many outside the signing segment of the deaf population. So that may very well explain it- the “voiceless” becoming vocal. I think that your post has somewhat brought it closer to justice, thanks.
Julie & Erin, I’ve also wondered whether JKF became a convenient target for the voiceless oppressed, by virtue of her oral background and speaking ability. When yet another deaf person with intelligible speech was selected for leadership of the entire deaf world, and was chosen over other people who were seen as more “D”eaf, deaf-centric, or what have you, it was like the last straw. Deaf and hard of people have experienced decades of unemployment, underemployment, and other forms of discrimination for exactly the reasons you described in your article. JKF was the match, and culmination of years of discrimination and oppression from not being able to talk was the kindling.
What I have to say is wow and breathtaking! You have hit nail on many heads. I share a lot of your frustrations and thank you for sharing your post.
Sadly, IKJ manages the Gally PR Dept. that how he wants to speak in the media against the Gally Community at an expense of the students’ tuition fees. He spends over million dollars to a lobbying firm and consultant in helping out IKJ in the protection of JKF. Again, IKJ continues to play “deaf cards” in media against the Gally campus after Jane Fernandes’ firing! You needs to make a strategy to close down the PR Dept in letting Mercy Coogan go and fire IKJ!
Aloha from Hawaii!
It keeps on amazing me to find people agreeing with JKF as a woman who happened to stand by an erupted volcano. Scientists inform us otherwise that they have a device called “helicorder seismogram.” It displays vertical ground velocities that can foresee the active volcanic eruptions. Volcanoes are predictable.
As Deaf Education leader, JKF has deliberately neglected numerous cries of oppression (velocities) that shook the ground at Gallaudet University. We must never assume that JKF was in a complete “volcano” oblivion. She is in her own making.
Her accomplishments in this state of Hawaii have hurt numerous Deaf professionals. Hawaii School for the Deaf, for example, was changed into Hawaii CENTER for the Deaf—which is a huge PR hoax. It is now a dumping yard for IEP failures.
I’m glad JKF is not taking the helm of our alma mater.
Mahalo, Carl
The world lost interest in reading your trashy blog after you continue stabbing at JK even after her termination. You showed your real character, scram, ugh, puke! Your picture shows as if you are a growling wolf, ugh!
gwl, you need to realize that Jane Fernandes used MBI (manage by intimidation) practices for many-many years. She became so enamorated with herself and her leadership style that she even tried to blackmail the Board of Trustees. That was insane and she received due punishment. You cannot bite the hand that gives you the bread…
Carl is absolutely right that the damages Kelleher caused to the university and to the Deaf community, must be identified, assessed and analyzed so that it would be impossible to repeat them ever again by any new or old admnistrator.
We need to make our victory permanent!
What does “victory” mean? How will you know it when you get there? Jane was not the enemy. She was just an easy target.
Jane Kelleher Fernandes represents everything that was wrong and obnoxious inside Gallaudet during the last decade. The ‘enemy’ was not only her, that is right. She only became the figurehead of troubles through her own choice by perpetuating these troubles.
Jane Kelleher Fernandes was not an ‘easy target’. She was a formidable foe of the protestors, trying to slime them with lies and slander through media, calling them terrorists just because they dared to criticize her and question her fitness to the position. She unleashed the most detestable tactics against protestors, and the only reason her furious and vicious attacks against us failed was that she made a FATAL MISTAKE and miscalculation by blackmailing the Board of Trustees. She was duly removed immediately by the Board because of her own failed intimidation tactics.
The ‘enemy’ of protestors was and still is an existing Ancient regime, a very old-fashioned system of power that manages Gallaudet business by MBI practices all the time, neglecting shared governance and keeping the quality of education low. This ‘enemy’ is a system of deprivation working against the Deaf. This system needs to be demolished now!!
Hey, don’t you, the mob, realize that you were also burned by the volcano in the end that was first started by these president wannabes that the world yawned!
Huh? Wanna try that again?
In correct grammatical English, please.
In response to Schroeder’s posting. IEP failures? My kids attended the Hawaii Center for the Deaf for their elementary education, and they are by no long stretch IEP failures. We chose the HCDB because it was the right place for them to be, in an environment that provided ASL immersion. They got a great start to their educational years there, and we so appreciate the warmth, multicultural experiences, and friends we gained from our association with the HCDB. My kids, and their friends, are NOT IEP failures, not by a long stretch of the imagination. You demean yourself when you mock the abilities of your peers, of whatever age. The kids deserve more than to be called “failures” just because they attend a school you deem yourself too good to attend.
Janet Johanson
Janet,
I taught Deaf children on Maui last year and we dumped them to HCDB because DOE has nothing for them on this island. It is a glorified day care, not a school…if you were to compare the curriculum with the DOE mandatories.
Carl
Lucky kids, they don’t have you as their teacher any more. Now, they have a chance to have some positive role models and to get an education from people who see their potential and how to work with the system to provide the best that is possible for them.
No further comment!
Give me a break. You mean to tell me you had no idea that isolating yourself exclusively to the deaf world, never taking advantage of the opportunity for speech therapy, and by choosing to sign only - now you’re surprised more than half the world doesn’t want to bend over backwards for you? Every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction. Trust me - nobody feels sorry for you. Instead of whining, why don’t you proffer free ASL classes to your neighbors/community/coworkers? Be proactive, not reactive. You can change the world by sending out small ripples like throwing a pebble in a pond. Slowly but surely, influencing one person at a time. Be a winner, not a loser with empty rhetoric.
Quo Wadis, I graduated from Smith College. It is a college full of hearing women who do not sign. How is this isolating myself in the insularity of the deaf community? Help me understand.
Where have I said that I chose not to have speech therapy? Speech therapy is a part of the Individualized Education Plan that many deaf kids who were mainstreamed are forced to have. I laugh when I think about the hours I was required to spend in a boiler room with the speech therapist trying to enunicate things I can’t hear amid the noise of rattling, and people like you are offended because I don’t talk to you.
So, my job is to teach everyone how to sign? I’m a walking Joy of Sign book? Do you really believe that every non-signer I encounter has the time or desire to learn sign language? Why is the onus on me to teach you sign language? Really, educate me.
I’m not going to make ripples. I think waves are more effective.
In addition to Erin’s comment in response to Quo Wadis, speech therapy is also a part of IEP in deaf schools other than mainstreaming programs. In other words, any deaf person we meet were forced to have speech therapy. It was hardly an option for most of the deaf kids. It makes me wonder how many of them speak better than they can read/write or vice versa.
Being a product of a deaf school, my mother took the extra measure to expose me to the hearing community besides my own since I was little. After experiencing both and while appreciating what the hearing community have to offer to some extent, there are some things about it that have pushed me into the deaf community. Would that be constituted as isolating myself after the fact both communities have been explored? This no way means I have completely isolated myself from the hearing community.
I just told a relative that there have been times that I wish I am not deaf eventhough I love and do not have qualms about being deaf. It is hard when society reminds us that we cannot measure up to anything. It is the society that makes it hard for me to function and participate without having to assimilate.
It can be tiring to have to defend my existence as a deaf person in a society that is or should be for everyone, which hearing people take for granted.
All too often, the society caters to those in the majority. All the communities we see that are being formed doesn’t happen just to purposefully isolate themselves from the world. I like to see these communities as a sancutary — an escapade of sort — from the world that expects us to be somebody we are not.
It’s like I often say during the presentations I do about Deafness and Deaf Culture:
“Deafness might be my disability…but Society is my handicap.”
Hey Quo,
What the frak is YOUR problem? Erin shared some deeply personal experiences that I (and I take the liberty of speaking for many readers who undoubtedly shared the exact same experiences) wholeheartedly understand. She DID “throw a pepple”, she DID influence someone (me, obviously not YOU), and she IS being proactive! How? By sharing her feelings with the world at large in what is obviously an attempt to engage in dialogue; that’s the whole point of DeafDC. And what do you do? You come waddling in, under the cover of anonymity, hurling disdain and contempt, and refusing to engage Erin in a polite and respectful discourse. If there’s anyone here in this blog who’s running on empty, it’s YOU.
Speech therapy may not be beneficial for some deaf people. I’ve always had private speech therapy lessons since I was a little girl. I did benefit from it enough to function as an oral deaf person in this very large hearing world that does not tend to make easy accomodations for those that use sign language.
Audism is an issue that every single deaf person, oral, hard-of-hearing, CIer, SEE, PSE, and ASL, face on a daily basis. I face it at work when I try to call other offices via relay and am hung up on because the person thinks I’m a telemarketer. Ugh.
Yes, exactly. Audism is something that all of us must deal with. I’ve had people hand up on me more times than I care to remember.
I’ve had to point out to others - especially strict oralists - that not every deaf benefits from speech therapy. I’ve had to pretend to be unable to speak in order to convince others that I really am deaf. What good is speech therapy if it doesn’t make it easier for ME to understand the hearing? It only makes it easier for OTHERS to understand me.
Interesting entry. But in an attempt to indicate that JKF was “unfortunate victim” at the wrong time is not something that I agree.
Yes, little things in life irked many of us to a point where we want to bash hearing people to no end. One time, I applied for a job, my resume included my high school (at a residential school) and Gallaudet. No luck. My HEARING friend advised me to alter the high school to a public school near the one I attended and replaced Gallaudet with another local school — bingo, I got called for an interview. And they claimed they do not discriminate! So yes, you’re right … it is “little things” that has been building from day one.
JKF knew about it — she chose to ignore, berate, divide and trample many when they brought up the persistent issues that seems to plague Gallaudet and Deaf people in general.
Ever notice something interesting at Gallaudet? Except for Deaf Studies & ASL Department, all Departments has hearing professors outnumber the deaf professors (even worse, name ONE profilic ASL user who is the professor among these? You won’t!) — why? One hearing professor sneered at me a long time ago that it is all about powerplay, the bloc to control the departments — and you wonder why many deaf professors retired with a bitter feeling?
JKF knew about it. She chose to ignore it.
They said to work with the system to change the way it works — but many did and failed. And they lost the faith in IKJ more than 10 years ago … so when the search process comes along, people were hoping for a change — when JKF got it, all hope is lost. In our souls, we knew the whole thing was wrong — some called it “deafhood” — we simply responded by protesting. When they attempted to tar, suppress and attack us, we simply had to fight back …
I guess, we were tired of the system that was supposed to work for everyone else. And from now on, I think it is safe to say that many of us will be very proactive and outspoken than ever. They will not accept things just because it is like that, you know?
But to say that JKF was just an unfortunate woman at the wrong time — I showed this entry to my friend — his response was: “Another farthead!”
No hard feelings, dear.
R-
Also, Fernandes deliberately caused a lot of damage in morale. Promotion and merit increase was not based on achievement but on loyalty to her and her lieutenants. This hurt academics bad and promoted servitude.
Erin is right. The anger and the power of the movement were not proportionate to the target. There is something else going on here.
Bystander, I completely agree. JKF was the symbol and the trigger, but not the root cause, of the anger. There are some in the blogosphere that claim JKF’s selection was a reflection of the institutionalized audism and paternalism perpetuated by Gallaudet and society, and that IKJ and JKF continued to maintain those practices. The other side of that claim is that “D”eaf discriminated against “d”eaf just as much… and that is a reflection of internalized audism, colonialism, and oppression. One thing I did like about Dr. Robert Johnson’s article a while back is his point that it’s easier to believe a simple lie than a complex truth. The simple lies are that the protest happened because JKF was not Deaf enough, not fluent enough in ASL, and lacked leadership. The complex truth is that the reasons for the protest included audism, oppression, paternalism, and discrimination, both internal and external, and everyone from the individual to the society is responsible for it. JKF’s appointment merely made her a convenient target.
Also, I see lots of personal grudges against JKF for making changes on campus or how she had to deal with students (e.g. goal post, hotel incident etc..).
You’re right, CE. I have been saying that all along that there are many other underlying issues where many are not being forthcoming. In short, skeletons in the closet. It is easier to blame others than themselves. Mea culpa I say. But they won’t because if they do then that automatically means that, yes, indeed there were other underlying issues in their hate against JKF (and/or IKJ).
But it is interesting that all of sudden a “Deafhood” workshop is being set up to discuss, also, “Identity Politics”. If “identity politics” was not the issue back then during the protest why bring it up now and discuss it after the fact?
Interesting to say the least.
I don’t think we should underestimate the dangerousness of Kelleher’s furious tactics against the protest. She had everything at her disposal and she almost won! She only made a stupid mistake by blackmailing the Board. That showed her true face of a dangerous manipulator to the wide world. Thanks for the Washington Post for publishing the evidence. This was the sole thing that finally changed the Board’s opinion, and consequently she had to be removed.
Boy, you really do have an ax to grind.
It is fact. We could read a portion of the email in the newspaper, thanks to Susan Kinzie. I would like to read the complete email though.
Ridor
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What you said, it is amazing that gays would discriminate against deaf people after preaching tolerance & acceptance for everyone. Such double standards. In the past, they would scream discrimination if other people think they are too gay to fit but they would think nothing of not hiring that deaf guy just because he is different! Gays need to think twice before discriminating against deaf people! Why should people grant gays the right to marry if they choose to discriminate against anyone else especially deaf people? Homosexuals have far more rights than deaf people, believe it or not. Nothing wrong with gays wanting rights since they are human beings like us but they may have gone too far lately! Time for gays to get moving along & let deaf people take the platform for new deaf rights to empower the deaf community. Like it or not, deaf people are so deprived in many aspects…no better time than now to act!
It is truly a shame when discrimination is from one oppressed group to another when they should be the last people to do such a thing. Especially so from the gay population.
When you said that the gay population have more rights than the deaf population, I fear so. However, it is not at all surprising to me. The gay population as well as the Jewish population have the advantage of concealing their identity in order to move up the ladder whereas oppressed groups like the deaf population or African-American population, being invisible is out of question, they get thwarted right on the spot. From what it seems, the gay and Jewish population have accomplished so much visibility in our society with the power they have attained and in turn, they help their community prosper.
Erin- I always respect your opinions and thoughts even though we may disagree. You are a wonderful and talented woman. I respect you as a person.
I am trying to understand what you mean about “that, my friends, is why the signing deaf community united against Dr. Fernandes.” Can you please clarify that?
I wanted to share about my first-hand experience with Dr. Fernandes. I had to give up Gallaudet University and to go to one of best film schools. It was a painful experience because it was my dream to graduate at Gallaudet University. Before I gave up, I tried and tried to work with Dr. Fernandes and to improve the system for film program and other programs. She didn’t care. All she said, “That’s how it is!” She left. I tried to talk to these students about it. They kept on saying, “Welcome to Gallaudet.” They knew about the issues but they chose to sleep on them. It was not like Dr. Fernandes happened to be a bystander. Dr. Fernandes knew about issues at Gallaudet University. She chose not to do anything because she didn’t believe in it.
Do I wanted her to be next president of Gallaudet University that doesn’t care about education, students and Deaf community’s needs? It has nothing to do with her deafness or as a bystander.
As a student at Gally, As a speaker, I told audience in a town meeting about my concerns related to academics. Jane Fernandes came to me and said,” Yes, you were right about academic issues. We must work together to improve.” This was last time I heard from her. I feel like you implied that I am the volcano that erupts and Dr. Jane Fernandez happens to be next to me?
Gallaudet community that involved hearing, people of color, Deaf, hard of hearing, Deaf with cochlear implant, and late-deafened people had a problem about Dr. Fernandes’s leadership. She spent so much of her time and put many bad images on Deaf community rather than focusing her leadership and trying to work with Deaf community. With her manipulating by using a deaf card, she makes things harder for Deaf people and you to be able to function in a majority society.
When you ask for a paper and pen, a person would think “Oh god, another Deaf militant and hearing hater demands a pen and paper. Poor hearing people who aren’t deaf enough stand next to volcano and you as volcano happen to erupt.”
That, my friend, Erin, is why Dr. Fernandes against signing inclusive diverse deaf community united.
Gallaudet can’t be all things to all people. I think this means that from now on no Gallaudet administrator can ever fire a faculty member or close a department. That is no way to run a university.
I am a Deaf individual (and Gallaudet graduate) who happens to have above-average speech and lipreading skills. In fact, my speech is considered “so good” that time and again people have drawn the conclusion that my “accent” stems from having been born in another country, not from having been born deaf. On more than one occasion, I have been asked what country I am from, only to respond “Kentucky.” (Okay, actually I was born and raised in Southern Indiana on the banks of the Ohio River, but I figure that’s close enough.)
When I do tell people that I am deaf, their expression immediately changes. Their jaws drop, their eyes open wide, and I know what’s coming…”You’re really deaf? But you speak so well!” Which often gets followed up with “Have you always been deaf? You speak amazingly well - I can understand every word you say! How did you learn to talk?”
Sigh…and their perception of me zeroes in not on my intelligence or my sense of humor or my knowledge of various topics or the fact that I can whip their butts at Trivia Pursuit…suddenly the only thing that matters is that I can speak so well.
I get complimented on my speech skills frequently - in fact, if I had a dime for every time someone has stated such, I could retire rich, buy me an oceanfront cottage in the Bahamas, and sip Mai Tais for the rest of my life. Whenever I’m told such, I always feel so awkward…what am I supposed to say? I know they mean it as a compliment, but I can’t help feeling a little frustrated that they have to make such a big deal out of it…especially when I think about all my Deaf friends who are just as intelligent and knowledgeable and witty and eloquent as I am, but whom they are never going to give the time of day for one simple reason - they don’t possess my speech skills.
Certainly my speech and lipreading skills have helped me in this world - of course they have given me certain advantages I might otherwise not have. But they have also given me major headaches as well.
It is a frequent but erroneous assumption on the part of many hearing people that if you have good lipreading skills, you should be able to understand anything and everything they say flawlessly, at any given moment. Nevermind that they might mumble, put their hand on their face, have a cigarette in their mouth, or Goddess forbid, a bushy mustache they never trim. Never mind that they might be sitting in front of a bright window, or in a dark restaurant with poor lighting, or that I might be plain dang tired…the assumption is still there.
Sure, speech and lipreading skills help…but they don’t erase the harsh reality that no matter how good my skills might be, I’m still deaf. Always have been, always will be. Try explaining that to the people who even after I have explained I can’t hear, still talk to me as if I can understand everything they say…without even bothering to get my attention first. Then they wonder why I don’t respond, and cross me off as just a rude person not interested in having a conversation.
The hardest part about it is dealing with the folks who assume that due to such skills, my communication needs are all covered, and thus I don’t require any type of assistance such as interpreters or CART services or whatever. How many times have I requested interpreting services, only to be asked “Why would you need them? You can read lips!”
I need them and request them because speech and lipreading isn’t the communication utopia that some people assume it is. Lipreading is hard work…and it’s guesswork. There are so many variables that come into the picture, and I’m not always willing to work within those variables. The bottom line is…I’m selfish. I want it all, and if that requires supplementing my own communication skills with the provision of interpreting services, so be it.
Besides, there are a lot of situations where lipreading skills just don’t do the trick. As an example, I can do fine on my own with a one-on-one conversations with my boss or co-worker…but I cannot depend on those skills to be sufficient during staff meetings. When you’re trying to lipread fifteen people gathered together in a room, with the discussion going back and forth, it’s like watching a zany tennis match. By the time I figure out who’s talking, they’ve finished and the “moving mouths” hunt begins again.
There have been times when even though I can speak well, I have resorted to using paper and pen…because I know the minute I open my mouth and say something, they are going to treat me as if I am hearing. What am I supposed to do? Begin every sentence with “I am deaf and….” ??? I have even tried speaking and signing at the same time, in hopes that perhaps they will get the hint and realize…”oh this person must be deaf!” Doesn’t always work - I’ve still had people who would look away from me, or speak too fast, or whatever. Or worse, who recognize that I am deaf, and treat me with that same rude impatience that Erin speaks of, simply because they don’t want to be bothered. Apparently even just taking a little more time and patience to look at me and enuciate a little more clearly is too much effort.
So even tho I have my own voice, it still doesn’t solve everything. I still deal with many of the same frustrations that Erin speaks of. I still deal with the fact that I can’t hear. I still deal with folks who don’t want to hire me because they worry about my ability to use the phone, or the need to provide interpreters for staff meetings, or their worries about my working in the office after-hours or on weekends due to “safety concerns.” I still deal with the absence of closed captioning, the folks who hang up on relay calls because they think I’m a telemarketer, the people who complain about having to provide (and pay for) interpreting services.
I feel for you, my sister. I too want to shout.
But even though my speech may be intelligible enough, will anyone really stop to listen?
Virginia,
I just wanted to thank you for writing your reply. You put how I felt and where I come from in far more eloquent words than I ever could. If I may, I would like to make some comments myself in a similar vein.
Erin, I am deaf since birth and I possess fair amount of oral and lip-reading skills. The experiences Virginia described are the ones I have experienced myself, as well as you have experienced (taxi, at the airport etc) despite this. I also do not know an iota of sign language, though I would like to remedy this someday. That said, I do still experience a fair share of discrimination in the little things. Whats worse, the frustrations you have, I share and empathize entirely but I get discriminated by a select few of the sign language community who believe I am not one of them.
And I felt in your last paragraph, you justified that discrimination erroneously toward Jane and other similar people. I share your frustrations, I want to change that. I have nothing against sign language, its just happened that I never needed to learn it where I’m from (Britain, which has its own sign language) and when I moved to the States, I haven’t got around to it. In fact, I’m all for personal choice. But what you cannot forget is that I share the same frustrations you have.
And since I do, there is the strong possibility that Jane has experienced those frustrations you have had yourself. Just because she didn’t know sign language till much later on, doesn’t mean she did not experience those little things. It is those kind of comments that have led to many divisions within the deaf community, which is sad because obviously, no matter how well we may speak, how well we may talk or how much CART services or Sign Language interpretors may help, we will still experience those little things that makes us feel dehumanized. This fact of life for a deaf person should not be turned into a competition among us as to who feels that humilitation more. We all share that experience.
I said my piece, and if I read your blog wrong, Erin, then it was my error.
I’m sorry that some people have discriminated against you because you don’t sign. If I knew you and met you personally, I’d help you out. :)
Thank you for your kind words. And if I may say…I think you have expressed yourself eloquently as well.
So while I do understand where Erin is coming from, I also appreciate your views as well.
The sad harsh reality is that those of us who can’t hear will and do get dehumanized by those who can. Not all of them, mind you - I have met many wonderful and caring hearing people, even those who cannot sign - but enough to make it hurt.
The sense I get is that Erin wasn’t intentionally trying to divide the deaf community, but merely identify some of those “little things” and express her own “voice” at how they can add up to creating that volcano that finally decides it has had enough and explodes.
But I do think you make a very good point - those frustrations are experienced by many of us…whether we use speech or ASL.
By the way, I join with Starry…if we ever get a chance to meet, I certainly wouldn’t push you aside. Heck, I’d probably be asking you a million questions about England!
England? Erm. I live in NY. I wouldn’t know a durned thing about England. Visited London once last year, had fun. That’s it. Where’d you get that impression?
OH. you’re talking to Anonymous.Sorry. never mind.
didn’t know anonymous was from England. Hmm.
I agree with you. We all share the experience of being marginalized because we can’t hear. It was not my intention to say that I am more marginalized than a deaf person who can speak well. I was writing about my own experience because that is what I know. I am not comfortable “speaking” for oral deaf people because I have not lived that experience so I have to depend on people like you to educate me. Thank you for sharing. I think we should try to find a way to bring together AG Bell, SHHH (I can’t remember their new name), and NAD to work towards the goal of respect and equal access for all deaf people, no matter their communication preference. After all, we experience the same fundamental oppression, but it may mainfest itself in different forms, depending on how the deaf person interacts with the world.
I’m very interested in learning more about your experiences at Smith College as a deaf person because I went to Smith as well. I had an interesting time there as an oral deaf person. I ran into a bit of difficulty in arranging for the CART service through disability services. I had the sense that the director hadn’t arranged for a CART service before. What sort of services did you use at Smith?
Plus, which house did you stay in? I stayed in Capen, King, and Haven during my four years there.
“I think we should try to find a way to bring together AG Bell and NAD to work towards the goal of respect and equal access for all deaf people, no matter their communication preference. ”
I think we should try to find a way to bring Saddam Hussein and USA to work together towards the goal of respect and equal access for all people.
Please don’t forget what AGB did to Deaf community and his wife. Look at Milian 1880 Congress history. AGB tried to make law that Deaf people couldn’t marry each other and sterilize Deaf men so they couldn’t breed any more Deaf children. AGB made sure that ASL was forbidded.
My first school was oral. I lost my two languages because of Oral. If it were not for ASL, I would be a zombie. I learned ASL and English written when I was six years old. …And that was when my life had begun. If it were not for ASL, I would be a zombie.
I went to a March for doing documentary shooting at Gallaudet on that weekend. I hang out with people who use ASL and Deaf-centered like me. The following weekend, I was invited to a party where all Deaf people are oralists. I was like wow both of them are extreme on different sides but many of them are my friends.
NAD is already include everyone who are late-deafened, deaf, hearing loss, Deaf, hard of hearing, and oral. The point is we respect each other, to protect Deaf’s rights and American Sign Language as a governed-rule language. Even though some people prefer to speak in English. That’s fine.
ABG organization itself looks down on ASL, and they make sure Deaf people have some kind of message inside their head and its something that they keep on striving to meet hearing status or they would be nobody.
I never want to be hearing. I LOVE TO BE DEAF. I even studied English spoken language. I find them amazing how speech works and how spoken language influence how we write some because of their vocal purpose.
My hearing friend said that he would never understand what it is like to be deaf. I told him I would never understand what it is like to be hearing.
I thank God there are diverse people out there on this earth like people of color, Deaf, Hearing, Hard of Hearing, women, men, gay, lesbian, straight, people with different languages and etc.. It makes this world so beautiful. But there is no such thing with English that has different methods of using English so ASL too.
I have a student in my class who grew up in oral. He speaks very well but he has a lot of anger inside. He is so isolation to himself. He writes beautifully even better than me. He wants to become a screenwriter. But I watch his social skills. I feel so bad for him. A lot of hearing students approach me and ask me why he wasn’t able to learn sign. I explained that he grew up in environment where he learned that being deaf is bad thing and people who around him trained him to separate himself from Deaf community. I made a lot of hearing friends and he doesn’t. I attend to major film productions and he doesn’t. He is falling behind. I really wanted to send him to Gallaudet where he can find himself and realize that he is a beautiful Deaf person..
It is ok for Deaf people to learn speech and happen to expert at speaking but they have rights to access to American Sign Language and Deaf community. It is not fair to them where they grow up that taught them that if they learn sign language, they would be even more less value as a person.
ERIN- I am so addicted to your blog. I think I need to go to detox center to withdraw my addiction to your blog. Wink!
I belong to AGB as a member, and they gave me a scholarship when I was in high school. Despite the history of its founder, AGB still works to improve accessibility for the oral deaf and the hard-of-hearing community.
I don’t regret being an oral deaf person at all, and I don’t think oralism is a bad communication method. I support all communication methods, and the right of parents to make these decisions for their deaf children.
Is it a smart decision to exclude AGB in the fight for increasing accessibility to the internet, to movies, television, and so on just because it’s centered towards oralism and use of the cochlear implant? They have a very large membership that could prove to be helpful in the fight in passing new legislation in the 110th Congress.
Noelle- Congrats that you got scholarship. FYI, If anyone decides to go to Gallaudet University, ABG will NOT sponsor her/him. “Applicants must be committed to using spoken language as their primary mode of communication. ”
D I S C R I M I N A T I O N against people who use ASL as their primary mode of communcation.
It is http://www.agbell.orgDesktopDe.....uirements.
I attend to School of Visual Arts, and I will not ask scholarships who discriminate anyone even people of color. If i knew there is scholarship that discriminate Oral, I would not ask any dime of theirs. :o)
Whats more, I am impressed with NAD because they don’t divide Deaf community. If you need an oral interpreter for you classes and your school wouldn’t provide that, NAD will make sure you will get it. If I want AGB organization to help me to get ASL interpreter, they will spit on my face. I support organization where they don’t divide anyone. NAD make sure every Deaf person even though oral, hard of hearing, Deaf, deaf, late-deafened, hearing loss, or speech disordered, ect.. get access to their rights.
The correct link is here:
http://www.agbell.org/DesktopD.....hip_Awards
Aidan, I’m not sure a college scholarship awarded to deaf students with specific criteria constitutes discrimination. Part of the criteria for an AGB scholarship is that, in addition to being oral deaf, the student must be accepted to or enrolled at an accredited mainstream college. Gallaudet has its own scholarships and donors, plus deaf students can often qualify for VR support. I agree with Noelle that oralism is not universally bad nor is it always an audistic practice. However, parents of deaf children do not always get all the information they should about the options available, and oralism is the one that most often gets “pushed” or “forced” on them, especially in the beginning. Typically, a signing environment is only considered after oral methods were tried first and failed. Oralism can be successful for some, such as Noelle, McConnell, Virginia, wildstarryskies, and others who post on this blog.
Curious George:
http://www.agbell.org/DesktopD.....quirements
I copied and pasted from AGB: “Applicants must be committed to using spoken language as their primary
mode of communication. ”
Every college have its own scholarship. I got my full scholarship from School of Visual Arts. Its scholarship don’t discriminate on anyone. They look at the qualification of students. They don’t care if you are hearing, people of color, Deaf, or anything as long as you have high qualifications.
Please read between lines, study what kind of people are at AGB organization, and what is really their intention to do that.
Thanks! FYI, I am going out tonight with my dearest Deaf friend who is speak very well and able to use cell phone (shh dont tell her, she always is on cellphone. I think about suggesting her to have her cellphone implanting on her head.) We go out for dinner then go to dance club. It is so odd how things happen between blog and real life on same day. I am sure my friend and I will have alot things to discuss, about what? this blog! Darn you, Erin! :o)
Cheers,
Aidan
OK, let me simplify: setting criteria for a college scholarship is NOT discriminating against anybody.
OH, please. Aidan got it right. Getting AGB to work with NAD is akin to getting North Korea to work with USA!
When AGB waged a campaign to split the Deaf Communities, the NAD, especially George Veditz, attempted to reach him and work on to find a solution.
Who refused? AGB, of course.
I have several friends who can speak very well. I dont discriminate them at all. But I occassionally joked that they yowled, mainly because they (and hearing people) tend to say that our signs resembled monkeys. If they can say that, why can’t I?
Yes, I’ll recognize that speech and lipreading has its benefits. So does the ASL. What really annoyed me the most is that the methods of deaf education initiated by hearing groups has failed badly, then a group of deaf educators wanted to do somethign different — they are branded as militants, extremists and all that. It is offensive, degrading and audistic.
Little things irked me to no end.
*picking up a baseball bat for the night*
R-
Discrimination is a harsh word for characterizing the criteria of scholarships for deaf and hard-of-hearing college-bound students. I’d say that it’s exclusively selective. Correct me if I’m wrong (and please do), but there seems to be a disproportionate distribution of financial aid and scholarships available to the two groups categorized by primary means of communication: A) who uses spoken language and B) who uses signed language.
AG Bell has a substantial list of scholarships for those who meet the eligibility requirements:
-Applicants must have been diagnosed with a moderate to profound hearing loss prior to acquiring spoken language in the speech frequencies of 500, 1000, and 2000 Hz.
-Applicants must include an audiological report.
-For applicants with cochlear implants, the most recent MAPping report must be included to verify that the hearing loss is moderate to profound.
-Applicants must be committed to using spoken language as their primary
mode of communication.
And for the college scholarships, one must be enrolled, or registered to enroll, in a mainstream and an accredited university. Gallaudet is accredited but it is not a mainstream university.
Fortunately, a pool of scholarships for those who primarily use sign language exists. They don’t require a severe to profound hearing loss, a specific age onset of deafness and even means of communication. Just have to burrow through the vast network of information out there.
Nevermind. Somebody else beat me to the punch.
MIE. Correct. However, the word “discrimination” can mean to note differences which can be a criterion or it can mean unfair treatment.
There are hundreds of scholarships out there that do discriminate based on differences in order to meet the requirement in getting one. Some are awarded if you belong to a certain fraternity or sorority. Some are based on GPA. Some are based on ethnic background. Political affiliation. Some are financially related (ie poor). Sports. Disability. Whatever.
If you say that having a set criteria in order to have that scholarship to mean unfair treatment then you will also have to say the same thing for all scholarships that have a set criterion as well.
NAD and AGB (as well as SHHH) can work together since they all are to serve the deaf and hard of hearing public. Just that each one of them is, imho, a special interest group catering mostly to one side.
Thank you for expanding the meaning of ‘discrimination.’ I knew that it pertained to the practice of distinguishing by category, but I naturally assumed that it was used in a prejudiced context.
Originally, my intepretation of scholarships was that some of them offer much more than just financial aid to those who cannot afford to go to college. Traditionally, U.S. colleges did not admit ANYONE, but those of Anglo-Saxon Protestant backgrounds. There was even a time when Catholics couldn’t even get in Harvard and Yale. Now it seems that anyone, regardless of sex, age, race, creed, religion, nationality and even disability, can go to college if and only if they can afford it.
I don’t like how the AGBell scholarships are discriminatory in the sense that the oral method is frequently practiced by the more privileged and educated (read: predominantly white) classes.
As for AGB, they are, in my eyes, an elitist organisation that “looks down” on the “other” deaf people who sign. Ironically, many of their oralist members do use sign language so I don’t understand HOW AGB can tolerate that.
I get sick and tired of these members espousing their “elitist” attitudes and constant put-downs of other deaf people who aren’t oralists. They “think” they are so much better than they really are. (Many brag that they went to ivy league and other prestigeous schools. Just because they went there doesn’t mean that they are any BETTER than the rest of the deaf population. I could care less if they went to Joe Schmo Ivy League College or to Joe Schmoe State University). I left the organization because I got tired of their “snootiness” and their hypocrisy as well as their “holy-than-thou” attitudes. They constantly form cliques within and really do NOT practice tolerance and acceptance of all those who are deaf.
Not only that, I have been seeing a major shift in their philosophy towards cochlear implants. Why the shift? Don’t they realize that there is another organization that deals with that subject matter? Aren’t they forgetting their focus–education? Why all of a sudden they start to cater to the cochlear implant audience? They are really forgetting their roots, in my opinion. I’m glad that I resigned my membership and do not encourage people to join that “elitist wanna-be” organization.
For Noelle and others with oral backgrounds, what do you have to say about the volume of oral failures, who fell through the crack and have had their future permanently doomed? Because of that, some are linguistically deficient. All AGB and its advocates do is show their poster children to continue misguiding parents. Doesn’t it bother you a bit that many are not as fortunate?
What I found bothersome about AGB is in one of the National Geographic magazine, I saw an African American baby’s picture ad. It says, “Can you tell this baby is deaf? Contact AGB.” I can’t remember exactly what it said but something to the effect. I was disgusted by this about hiding one’s deafness.
I would include myself with oral background, and being born deaf myself. Also, having recently moved to the States from Britain, I don’t know much about AGB.
That said, I understand where you are coming from. I appreciate the difficulties if there is an oral failure, and that is where sign language comes in. There is also a need for a culture that provides as much security as possible for people in that situation. As an oral deaf person, I would never tell a hearing person to ignore an ASL deaf person, to discriminate that person nor would I do that myself. I appreciate the challenges for every deaf person. I hope to provide what assistance I can to help out, just as I hope that an ASL deaf person to help me out also.
In sum, I would caution against any implicit attack on any oral deaf person as lumping them with any organization that has negative goals for deaf people. In doing so, you ignore that we recognize the challenges also.
Katherine, of course I am bothered knowing about deaf people whose potential was unrealized because of the imposition of oralism, and who experienced communication and language deprivation as a result of it. Millions of uninformed hearing parents of deaf children cling desperately to the hope that their children will talk some day. It’s painful and difficult for them to give up this dream, because they so value speech and hearing, and know of nothing else. Parents, doctors, audiologists, teachers, and anyone else who comes into contact with deaf infants, children, youth, and adults should be educated as to all the options that are available. It’s still asking a lot of them to put aside their value system and consider not only the beauty of Deaf culture and ASL, but also its practical applications, such as the development of a functional language.
I think it’s important to separate oralism from its negative associations. Oralism has and continues to work for some, and not for others, and maybe not for the majority of those who attempt it. But that does not discount the fact it can be successful for some, and those people can continue using oral methods of communication if it works for them.
I would also be careful about attributing negative motivations to organizations such as AGB. What we, the Deaf community, should do instead, is promote our rich culture to the mainstream community. Rather than criticizing AGB, how about creating our own advertisements? How about reaching out to doctors, et al, in our communities and giving them the information they need?
Right, CE. There is never a one-size fits all. And there is a historical irony about oralism in association with Martha Vineyard.
“When oral schools popped up after 1860, children from Martha’s Vineyard continued to go to Hartford for school. Massachusetts paid for ten years of schooling, so when deaf children returned to the island they were even better educated than their hearing peers, who would often bring documents over to their deaf neighbors to have them explained.”
http://everything2.com/index.p.....n%20Martha’s%20Vineyard
was Hartford (assuming you meant the American School for the Deaf) an oral school?
No. Island signs and FSL at that school. I wasn’t clear in what I was trying to say. The irony lies back then to today when technology has made a difference in oralism.
Katherine and Aidan Mack
Forbidden Signs
American Culture and the Campaign against Sign Language
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/.....39633.html
Virginia, this reminds me of my childhood DoD friend, who lived a block away from me. I’ve been fortunate to have at least 15 deaf residents in my hometown within 10 or so blocks. My neighborhood treated us like anyone and included us. A lot of wonderful memories. Back to the point :)
My friend is a native user of ASL and attended a deaf school. She happens to speak intelligibly. For those of you who wonder, yes, she’s profoundly deaf. After failing to get hearing people to appreciate her valuation for ASL and Deaf Culture that she allows to define who she is, she stopped speaking. People ignore what she wanted to educate them because they kept saying, “But, you speak so beautifully.” They don’t care if she signs or writes flawlessly as long as she speaks. I don’t blame her for being turned off and demanding a paper/pen from now on.
Katherine, I know several Deaf people who choose not to speak for this very reason, or because they feel that the effort to communicate should be more equitably shared. Thanks for this example. Hearing people often feel sad for Deaf people who were not “taught” to speak as children, but when do they feel sad for Deaf children who are not given ASL?
It is really more about their issue than ours. They feel sad because ASL is a language they are incompetent and they are not willing to appreciate diversity of bona fide 100% accessible languages, barring speech for signed languages, in our country. Those who embrace language diversity, like we see in Europe, are more likely to be open minded and not be sad. In the case of deaf population, it’s twofold — speech issue and language issue.
Here’s the irony: Hearing people often feel sad about those deaf people who were not taught to speak, as you said, when in fact ALL of deaf children were required to have speech therapy. By whom? Hearing people. Only a few of deaf children accomplished to qualify as a poster child.
We are talking about a bunch of hearing people who are either ignorant or deceived by their own very people and the vicious cycle keeps repeating. We need to be proactive to end the cycle. Hope there’ll be a generation where society at large don’t feel sad for deaf children who were exposed to ASL since birth. It’s been too long to a point that we are still hoping and praying.
Virginia–
I, too, applaud your posting here as I am in the same boat as you are as I do have exceptional speech and lip-reading skills. Again, I, too, would retire rich if I had collected $$ each time someone remarked how well I spoke and read their lips.
You said it so eloquently but again, we are in a class of our own, I guess as not many deaf people are like us.
I want to add one more thing–why didn’t you tell the doctor that you’d take legal action against him/her for failing to providing interpreters? I did just that for my own doctors and many of them equivocally provided these services after having consulted their lawyers and learning that it costs significantly more to defend themselves in a lawsuit than to provide interpreters and that they surely will lose the suit as well. So it did work for me because many of these doctors have group practices and they justifiably have significant practice earnings to afford an interpreter because the cost can be borne across their entire patient base. There is NO excuse for doctors to deny services here. In fact, I did contact the VA medical board and they aggressively told the doctors that they would be called to the carpet if they denied services to deaf patients on the basis of communication needs. Needlessly to say, I didn’t have to file lawsuit and/or ADA complaints with the DOJ.
Do yourself and the deaf community a favor: fight for your rights, not acquisce to their denials.
Your last line gives me pause. Good for you for fighting, but it’s not always that simple. Most of us have to pick our battles. Erin may very well have done exactly what you suggested, or decided not to. The point, I think, was that it happened in the first place, 16 years after the passage of the ADA.
Wow, thank you Virginia, this is very eloquent. Erin, every single one of your examples, and especially what you’ve described with interpreters, speaks well to what I also encounter, every day. Virginia, I agree that though the ability to speechread and lipread to any extent can be a valuable tool, the practice of speechreading and lipreading has caused me similar problems as well. I *hate* that when I am speaking with hearing people (oh, and I say I’m from England, because my voice sounds nothing like a British accent) the first thing they comment on when learning I am deaf is my speech. Not only does this reduce me for that moment to my vocal cords (and cause me to think of hours of missed class time in speech therapy), it reminds me that when I am out there using ASL, my inability to speak is assumed. And yes, speaking puts you in the sometimes risky position of having people assume you can hear. This is why I *always* use paper and pen, for example, if I am pulled over by the police while driving. And the use of speech is even more loaded, in a way, in that it sends a message that “I am willing to shoulder more of the work here by communicating in the way that is most comfortable for you.”
This resonated strongly with me, because I’ve felt so many of those tiny little things that are dehumanizing and frustrating as heck. This may well have been one of the driving forces behind the protest - this is something I need to ponder more. However, I disagree with the notion of Fernandes simply being by the volcano. This implies she was a victim. She was not a victim. She was an accomplice in what happened. Her persistent playing of the “not deaf enough” card was insulting on so many levels, and yes, it was a dehumanizing incident of the kind you mentioned in your article. Her portrayal of the protests as anarchy and terrorism turned many would-be supporters off, for one thing. Furthermore, I have talked with enough people who have directly experienced her “leadership” as supervisor of MSSD and Kendall and as provost to believe that she would have been a disaster as president. And as Mark Drolsbaugh eloquently explained (http://www.deaf-culture-online.com/gallaudet-board-of-trustees.html), the perception of how Fernandes got the job, whether it’s accurate or not, did her in in a big way as far as the community is concerned. I could go on and on and make a whole blog post here… *grin* so I’ll stop here. To sum it up, Erin, you just may have articulated something that helped drive the protest, but that alone does not satisfactorily explain why people like me and many others supported the removal of Fernandes. If it were just this, I would not have supported this at all. It’s more complicated than that - the protest was partly about her as a leader, partly about how the administration has treated its stakeholders both before and during the protest, partly about the perception of corruption and favoritism, and perhaps as you put it, partly due to a cultural earthquake.
Thank you for the article - it is unquestionably food for thought!
Erin,
Excellent post with well-provoking thoughts! I am in same boat with you as I have experienced this situation for years, even at RIT where I encountered many problems before I graduated to come here for masters program. Hopefully in one day, we and the others will come together to have a meaningful discussion about it here. Keep up your spirits!!
Deaf must have hearing teachers to remind the deaf to stop making ugly noises that can drive the public away. I understand that many deaf people surely make noises while eating…slurping….grunting….loud chewing….tongue clicking….sniffing….burping and many more.
Hearing people usually prefer to sit far away from deaf groups in restaurants.
Most deaf from deaf parents usually grunt while signing.
It is very important for the deaf to have hearing teachers to teach and to remind.
Sorry to say that hearing people have more education than most deaf people.
I am throwing at least one out of many darts at the “ASL only” deaf after reading about how the protesters are still mocking at JK while they are the real ones to be mocked at.
I just can’t believe to my eyes when I read this. You poke fun of us, try to ridicule our way of communication, kick into our culture and finally humiliate us by typical hearie ‘Uebermentsch’ mentality, borrowed from the Nazis?! Are you at you right mind, man???
If I would know you, I would say that you are the dirtiest racist pig I have ever known. But because I don’t know you, I just assume for now that you are very ignorant and uneducated. You should ashame yourself!
Please, go back to school, and take some classes about the basics of human mores, before you involve yourself into something you have absolutely no clue about.
Testing_ the_truth
Don’t bother to waste your energy. Just feel sorry for them who have an issue with Deaf and would make up the lies about hearing people against Deaf people or feel sorry for themselves because they can’t hear or speak. Whatever they point at Deaf, look at how many fingers point at themselves. Whenever they say self-pity and self-hatred comments, it just comes from themselves inside. Just thank God that we are brightest Deaf people who have so many offers to this world. They just don’t get it because they are too busy to focus on negative darkness world.
I died three minutes and was in coma for a week. I saw everything. God “slapped” my face and said, ”Wake up, I make you as a Deaf person on purpose. These ignorant people are here in order to help us to strive our missions and to become diverse people, without these ignorant people, our passion will die.” Just look at them as our logs to keep on burning. :o)
99 percents of my time, I hang out with hearing people. I love them. They are trying to work with me. They offer me so many opportunities as a filmmaker. Sometimes, they ask stupid questions but that’s ok because they want to learn. Sometimes I ask stupid questions about hearing culture. I learned a lot. They respect me as DEAF person that uses ASL. I guess it depends on whom they hang out. If they feel sorry for themselves or feel bad about themselves, they tend to attract to negative crowd, which is not our problem.
Cheers,
Aidan
Hi Aidan, that was very nicely stated from your own experience. I applaud what you said!!
The post is rather slimy. I’m sure he’s not alone in his feelings, but yes, it was a post in bad taste. I still find it odd to see you saying “us”….you’re hard of hearing? I seriously always thought you were plain old hearing. I remember the early on in the protest a Deaf leader told me: a hearing professor named Zoltan spoke too, didn’t sign well, but was really eloquent”, so apparently I’m not alone in my misconception. huh.
PS: Godwin’s law should never be broken so soon in argument.
My ASL is Intermediate Plus and my hearing is profoundly hard. Anything else you collect and report about me, honey, in yor database? ;))))
I find it hilarious when nameless and faceless figures — with zero stance in anything that matters — come and swarm around somebody like pesky worms because that person happen to stand for something. Have you ever heard about basic human decency?
So then why don’t you tell about yourself?
boxer, you’re audistic scumbag who needs to be tarred and drag down the Lincoln Circle!
R-
I dont agree with what was said before, but the fact that you advocate violence proves you are even less of a person.
Johan, why do you provoke Deaf people on our own forum using this obnoxious language? What is your goal? Who are you? What do you have to do with us? Are you a professional provocateur?
Ooh, the irony.
testing_the_truth
I have an opinion, and I have a right to express it.
Do you understand that?
I hope you do because I dont appreciate your dispicable and self-righteous tone with me.
You seem to always assert that the Deaf culture is a movement and that any criticism from outside is invalid.
I am going to choose to ignore you and your inane ramblings from now on.
Inane rambling? Zoltan, please go back to May 1 to now and read what you have written since then.
You quoted Johan, so please, address him. Thanks.
I name thee a professional provocateur. In other words, you’re a professional troll. Now go find a bridge to live under and watch out for goats.
posits…
JKF was raised in an oral environment.
She isn’t crazy hung up on ASL.
You can’t communicate well with the hearing world because you don’t have enough oral experience.
You’re crazy hung up on ASL.
Sounds like she was just the president you needed.
if you would have taken the time to read my comment…
I think I have plenty of oral experience, thank you very much. I was raised in that same environment.
I still supported the removal of Jane - and I do not believe she was “just the president I needed.”
I have to second Virginia’s comments. I also replied to her comment earlier (the same anonymous here).
I did think Jane deserved a chance, but her conduct during the protests nullified any respect or credibility she would have had. Therefore she could not realistically be a leader.
That said, I think it would be interesting to decide what are the requirements of a deaf person leader. Certainly, in an American context, ASL knowledge goes without saying. You cannot lead those you cannot communicate with, its as simple as that. While a priority may be placed on communicating with “outsiders”, in this case the hearing world, that priority will never overtake that of communicating with the community you want to lead.
To sum up, being able to communicate with outsiders is a bonus (not neccesarily a huge one, as illustrated by Virginia’s blog earlier. We suffer communication issues as well) but being able to communicate with your community, in all forms (ASL, non-ASL etc), is crucial. Jane did not, unfortunately, satisfy that criteria.
“ASL is the communication mode that so many of us grew up with,” said LaToya Plummer, a junior. “It has its own characteristic uniqueness and is such a rich language that we recognize its value and do as much as we can to preserve these language traditions.”
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCAT.....ulture.ap/
> “The problem is not that the deaf students do not hear. The
> problem is that the hearing world does not listen”
> Rev. Jesse L. Jackson
Very well said. This will resonate with a great many, as it did with me.
I love how you said, ” ‘Deaf people can do anything but hear’ is a lie.” Reminds me of the Emperor’s clothes, how no one dared tell him he was actually naked. We keep on trying to believe we’re equal, and while we are POTENTIALLY equal, the truth is, we’re not. It sucks but it’s true.
I’m not sure if the only reason for this protest was our lack of voice, but it could certainly be considered a critical factor. It seems more as if there’s a mess of causes. I pity the historians who take it upon them to study this part of our history and untangle these causes.
We can do anything. It is up to us if we want to stay home and cry about how much we fail to meet hearing status or we go out and show to world that we can do anything. (I still don’t understand why IJK had to add “can’t hear” I never was hearing therefore I will never say, I can’t hear. It is irony for me to say if I say, “hearing people can do anything but can hear” or “Black people can do anything but white”
English is my second language. I am not going to cry that I can’t write English as good as you are. I go and get an English tutor. I see my English tutor two times a week. I get better and better every time.
My chairperson was afriad that I would fail in sound production and Pro tool class because I “can’t hear” any **** but I am one of top students. Because I find different way to feel and study the sound that hearing people would never thought and yet it help them to become better sound person. I will never be a sound person but I will be a great communicator to sound designer and sound mixer because I get into their head and study what they look for. Hearing people have their limitation and still they can do anything so Deaf people too. Not all hearing people can be sound person. I find it amazing how many hearing people can’t hear sound. Only few hearing people will become a sound person.
Please don’t generalize Deaf people that they think that we are equal. I don’t think I am equal to hearing people but doesn’t stop me from trying to both of us, deaf person and hearing person to be equal. It does not stop from women to get both of men and woman to be equal. It does not stop from Black people to try to get white people to be equal as them.
I don’t pity the historians because they love so much to research, explore, discover, and untangle these causes..
Cheers,
Aidan
Erin,
You articulated many of the feeings I have, too. Of course, I would like to add that Jk wasn’t just a “victim”. Yes, she was standing right next to it, but not so wisely, she decided to throw some dynamite in the volcano. Her own words and actions (both present and past, during her 11 years) really damaged her case. The responsiblity is hers.
:)
The responsibility is everyone’s. We all had a hand in this in one form or another, and to one degree to another. Somehow, somewhere and at sometime a web was spun into an increasingly complex cohesive and incohesive pattern intertwined together that paints an ugly, ugly picture.
No one is immune in all this. We all had a part in this mess and no one can be excused as not being a party to this mess. Everyone…is….guilty. Even me.
Mea culpa.
I would like to address the points that some of you (Starry, Ridor, Adian, Moi) have brought up. The intent of this piece was not to portray Dr. Fernandes as a victim in any way. How can she be a victim? After all, she stuck by her guns in the face of extreme pressure from the world. She fought back. That is not a victim.
The volcano was a metaphor, but the volcano I describe is not the same volcano that Dr. Fernandes referred to. She thought this volcano was identity politics. I say it’s something different.
The focus of this was not Dr. Fernandes. I respect the need of people to share their individual experiences with her in this forum but I believe this conversation has already taken place in so many other parts of the blogsphere.
The effigy has been burnt. The fat lady has sung, but looks like it fell on deaf ears (smile). Sorry, I just HAD to make that joke!
Anyway, the point is that Dr. Fernandes is gone. This has been a painful experience for all of us, for her supporters and for those who opposed her. Let’s focus on understanding this movement and the actors in it. I want to understand why and how the deaf world came together to oppose Dr. Fernandes’ appointment but not the discrimination we face in the hearing world. Is it because this appointment, in a way, is a simulacrum of the processes (legal, political, medical) taking place outside of the deaf community (without our input) that we fight? Is Gallaudet what we have control over, so we fight this, instead of the world?
“Is Gallaudet what we have control over, so we fight this, instead of the world?”
We have no control over anything, except over ourselves. We can move people to tears or to laughter or into a rage, but only if they allow us to.
That’s an extremely hard thing to understand emotionally, and I think we all will struggle with that until we die. I think Erin’s blog raises a very solid, legitimate point.
There are many underlying issues to this entire situation that culminated into this massive outcry. I don’t envy the historians either.
~ Deaf Pundit
It is possible that it is because like you said, “Is Gallaudet what we have control over, so we fight this, instead of the world.” It wouldn’t make sense to begin on a larger scale, the world, before Gallaudet and deaf schools/community/programs/organizations across the country. Most of them look up to Gallaudet for guidance.
What happened at Gallaudet has shown how unified we have become and brought the issues right in front of us. I hope this will encourage everyone in the deaf schools/community/programs/organizations across our country to be receptive to the issues and make changes within their systems. And the hearing community in each city/state look up to them for guidance.
When all is done, then maybe one day, the world won’t be as bad as we have experienced.
Leader: Gallaudet Protest Sought Equal Treatment
JS: But wasn’t that the role of the board of trustees though, to select the president?
NB: Right, with understanding and interaction with the community. You know that’s one of the many reasons why we chose to come to Gallaudet. Because we wanted to be treated as equals here. To my surprise I’m not equal here. Maybe a little bit more than the outside world but less than expected. And to have that experience at home, you know, our very home, is very very unhealthy.
http://www.npr.org/templates/s.....Id=6435199
“A little more than the outside world…”?
= “rampant audism”
I smell something….
Erin,
Just catching up on DeafDC.com and this is somewhat related to what I was trying to articulate in my earlier guest blog: Social and Cultural rights.
We have the laws but we must change the mentality of people around us - I admit I do not know the full answers, just part of it - work hard and be successful so others recognize us. But that works only on few people - what else? I hope the comments listed touch on other ways.
We work hard to integrate in the world’s society - we cannot force them to accept us but we can somewhat educate the hearings to do it - how? - I have no idea
Excellent post!
Erin - we cannot just let ignorance of the others take the best of us. No matter how cliched the phrase “deaf people can do anything but hear”, I still believe it is true and serves as a higher purpose for us. I assume that most of the bloggers here are highly educated (having a masters or higher) and that makes up less than 15% of the entire American population. To me, that means that most of us are ahead in our game.
For those people who rolls their eyes or sigh in frustration when deaf people ask for paper and pen, it’s mostly because they’re embarrassed with their writing skills. How many times have you rolled your eyes with their spelling? I have. Plenty of times.
But, looking at it in a positive light, it reminds me of a funny VISA commercial taking place in a cafeteria where each drink and food tray is served synchronically and every customer pays with a VISA - just like an assembly line. Then there’s this one customer who pays with cash at the register and it disrupts the rhythm and everything becomes a mess. All the customers looks at this person as he nervously hands out cash to the register. I think it’s almost like for us - especially when you’re standing in a long line at Starbucks.
You would be surprised how many people have never heard of the ADA - especially doctors. There are more foreign-born doctors in the medical profession today and they’re not educated on American disability rights laws.
You always have the right to file a complaint against the doctors for failing to provide effective communication. Go to http://www.ada.gov/t3compfm.htm for the instructions on how to write a letter of complaint. Yes, of course, there is bureaucracy involved, but at least, you can do something about it.