It’s November already, and Christmas decorations have been up in the stores for about two weeks now. It seems everything is in fast motion these days, and that definitely applies to the world of politics. Come Sunday, it’ll be exactly a year before we head to the polls to elect a new president. Normally, that wouldn’t be big news in itself, except that it’s still very possible that the first primary/caucus/winnowing will be next month, in December 2007.
Despite the compressed calendar, the field is still somewhat fluid. No ballots whatsoever have been cast, yet we’ve had people throw their hats in and drop out completely and mumble about how they might run, or they’re not going to run (but not a word about accepting a draft), or they’re running, but they won’t accept the role of Vice-President (despite the fact that being Veep is a far more powerful job than the macabre role it once was).
So far it looks like the lineup is fairly firm, at least through January. But in the last couple of days, a new candidacy was imminent, and now has seemingly vanished in a blip. I’m speaking of course of Stephen Colbert, the comedian who wanted to run in the South Carolina primary. He initially stated his intention to run on the ballot under the banner of both of the titular big boys, the Democrats and the Republicans. He then changed his mind and said he’d run in South Carolina as a Democrat. A piece about his impending announcement ran online earlier on CNN’s website. There was already opposition from the big boys in the party:
Another council member, Charleston Democratic Party Chairman Waring Howe, was more blunt: “Over my dead body will Colbert’s name be on the ballot.”
Part of the uproar centered around the fact that each successful filing results in the state party paying the state election committee $20,000 per candidate. But what I found intriguing among all the dissension was that Colbert’s supporters noted that
the comedian will bring new, younger voters into the party fold … “I think a lot of people think it’s a joke because it’s a comedy show and what not, but he’s a nice fellow, and if he gets on the ballot, he will come here to South Carolina and campaign across the state,” said Charles Hamby, the second vice chairman of the state Democratic Party.
“We know he won’t be president. He knows that. But it will bring a lot of people into the party,” Hamby said.
However, yesterday the Palmetto State’s Democratic executive council decided to deep-six Colbert’s bid. One central objection was that Colbert would make a “mockery” of the political process. How could his candidacy be more of a mockery than a political system where state election boards act like children, trying to be first in line? How could it be more of a mockery when the media pays far more attention to a $400 haircut than they do to a President that puts “Iran” and “World War III” together in the same sentence? I certainly consider it a mockery when campaign finance reform is a sham and the big boys are the real powers behind the curtain. It’s a political wonderland out there: is Colbert Alice, or the Cheshire Cat? Would his “truthiness” speak volumes more than the “truth” we’re handed by political columnists and well-groomed talking heads?
Most news stories were like the one I just linked to: a short blurb downloaded from the AP, and stuck on the back burner somewhere deep in the middle of the paper. But here in Los Angeles, The Los Angeles Times ran a rather lengthy article about Colbert’s desire to place his name on the Democratic slate. In the piece, “Is There Truthiness to His ‘08 Bid?“, writer James Rainey observes that Colbert’s potential bid opens a Pandora’s Box related to his role on television and the guidelines the media and politicians must follow. Rainey posed a question: Does schtick count as constitutionally protected, and therefore unregulated, speech?
What’s far more interesting than this philosophical-political query is the fact that the state executive council noted that there is generally a two-part criteria for a candidate to be successful in filing papers: 1) the candidate must be viable nationally, and 2) must spend time campaigning in South Carolina.
In the Times article, Rainey notes that
One Republican polling firm showed Colbert (at 2.3%) drawing more support nationally than Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico and Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, although the differences could be statistically insignificant, given the poll’s 5-percentage-point margin of error.
To me, reading all these articles, it seems that Colbert is just as viable as Bill Richardson, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, and Ron Paul. In fact, the online magazine Slate isn’t even including Kucinich or Gravel (or Duncan Hunter and Alan Keyes) in its “Election Scorecard” section. Now, Slate isn’t the arbiter of everything political, nor is it the end-all or be-all, but it is interesting to note that there are different notions of who is viable and who isn’t. My thinking is that that choice should be left to the voters to determine “viability.” Certainly most people know that candidates such as Kucinich and Keyes stand no chance in the current system of achieving the presidency, yet the press and the people acknowledge them as “serious” candidates. Why not Colbert?
As for the second prong, Colbert has indicated that if his petition was accepted, he’d campaign in South Carolina at the very least. So as far as I’m concerned (and we all know just how much influence *I* have!), Colbert passes the test. He’s just as viable as anyone else. Despite what polls like to tell you, any one of those people who have filed papers could very well be standing on the Capitol steps come January 20, 2009. As Charles Hamby stated, Colbert certainly would attract attention to the political process, and perhaps pull in new voters from the previously disinterested or disenchanted.
What do you think? Should Colbert have been allowed to run as a Democrat in the South Carolina primary? Why or why not? Would you vote for him?
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I’ll answer your question twofold: 1) if an actor from California can go on to win the POTUS (three guesses who!), then everyone deserves a chance, even a funnyman.
2) I would vote for him if his policies and agenda were something I really could support. But as of this moment, I don’t know beans, so I can’t say.
Not to mention an actor from California who went on to be Guvernator… *grin*
Yeah, I agree with your #2. I don’t know enough about where Colbert *really* stands to support him. It’s moot now, though, I think.
Except for certain Republicans and career politicians, can anyone really be any worse than W?
Jokemakers are usually known for their observations, intellect, and perception (admirable traits, yes?). They are obviously smart people and have an unique take on things (George Carlin, Dennis Miller, Tracey Ullman, etc…) and I’d give them a chance to run the country, given that their views and ideals are what I would support (a la Vikki above).
In that case, Brent, hope and pray that Al Franken wins in Minnesota. *grin*
I already done with pols anyway. I am really sick of crappy political sh*t! Who give any f**k?
We really need real policymakers, showboat personalities.
RLM
If Colbert REALLY wanted to run for president, I probably would vote for him. He’s said that he doesn’t really want to be president, though.
I’m getting so disgusted with all of the political candidates that I’m seriously considering voting independent. If enough people vote independent, then maybe it’ll be a wake up call to BOTH Republicans and Democrats.
That is time for America having multi-parties to FORCE the dominant two-tier parties to compromise and work out for the best interests of our country!
RLM
I think it’s hilarious. We all know that Colbert will be running as his TV persona - I look forward to his mocking and aping of the behavior on the far right.
It’ll be fun. Everybody will laugh then go vote Democratic.
;)
Oscar Wilde had it right…
“If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they’ll kill you.”
First things first - his application was rejected by the state Democratic Party council yesterday.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit.....tic-p.html
Yes, I think he should be allowed to run.
I like Colbert, and always have. He was great on the Daily Show, and has gotten even better on his own show.
My concern is…I’m tired of people saying they will “run” for prez and then saying that they don’t really want the job.
If Colbert really feels that way, he’d do everyone a favor and just comment from sidelines.
But if he was serious about really wanting the job, then his involvement would be a good step in bringing back the concept of basic democracy, where anyone who wanted to could run for prez. America was founded on that premise and I think it’s time we got back to that concept.
You got a point. I admit that was a knee-jerk reaction: I like Colbert, so yeah, lets let him run!
I think anyone can run - if they have enough money. To get enough money, a candidate needs to inspire confidence in either people with enough moola to contribute or enough people with a bit of money to contribute. I am not sure that I see anything wrong with this picture, but still, the state’s Republican Party’s application fee of $35,000 seems ridiculously steep!
I too am sick of the two main parties - even though I acknowledge that this two-party system has provided for a lot of stability throughout US history. Third parties have at times caused the two main parties to take notice of certain issues (see the Progressive Party, or was it the Populist Party, around the start of the 20th century) and make significant reforms as a result. The question is, is this two-party system finally seeing its death throes? If so, what then? If not, then are the two parties due for a changing of the guard and a changing of the main issues?
Belle, I do see something wrong with the picture…to have even a CHANCE of getting elected, one has to raise lots, lots and I mean lots of money. Like hundreds of thousands of dollars. And it’s tough to get enough people to contribute that much, and that’s why many candidates rely heavily on corporate donations and that’s where the problem lies.
I also think it’s time to get rid of electoral college system so that people can feel that their vote REALLY counts.
I agree that the application fee of $35K is way too much. Actually that was news to me…I had NO idea that a candidate had to pay some kind of application fee to even run. Somehow, I always thought it was free. I guess I was kidding myself. In any case, that $35K practically keeps the average Joe and Josephine out of prez race (i.e., I don’t have $35K to spend on an application fee!) and keeps the rich people in.
Michele, if we abandon the electoral college, what should we replace it with? How will a new system be equitable?
I agree- it’s time to re-examine our electoral system, but I think the first stop has to be the primary system. It’s totally out of whack as it is.
The popular vote by itself should be enough to make things “equitable”.
Remember, electoral college was only established BECAUSE the founding fathers were terrified of mob rule and didn’t have much faith in the new residents of the new country.
I think by now, the concept of electoral college has outlived its original purpose and usefulness.
If we had a popular vote, then California, New York, and Texas will always decide who the President would be.
The electoral college is useful today as it was in the past, although for different reasons.
Today, it helps ensure that the country maintains its cohesiveness by requiring a distribution of popular support to be elected President. This way, the minority interests are also protected by having a say in who gets elected.
Abolishing it just because we are not happy with the results isn’t good enough a reason to do away with it.
No, that’s not true. The popular vote is counted country-wide. The size of the states don’t matter in this regard.
In the last election, Gore won the popular vote, and Bush won the electoral college vote. Which had more weight? Electoral college vote!
And I think that’s wrong.
The electoral college system REMOVES your “say” in who gets elected. Think about it: you could vote for Candidate D, and if enough people in your state voted for Candidate A, then the state will call the Candidate A the winner, even if s/he got less than 51% of the state-wide vote.
To me, that sucks, and I can certainly understand why so many people feel as if their vote doesn’t “matter” or doesn’t “count”.
Belle, I think the two parties are definitely due for a changing of the guard, AND some introspection into what they stand for. As it is, the Republicans have abandoned a lot of their core principles, and the hard-core right-wingers are in danger of developing a cult of personality. The Democrats have also abandoned a lot of what they stand for, and most of them have either adopted a “me-too” “Republican-lite” attitude, or simply gone AWOL. I think it would benefit our country a lot more if we had a broader representation, such as many Europeans do with their parliaments, where an array of political parties win representation to the national legislature.
But the immediate problem I see before any other reforms can be done is to get money out of the system. Right now campaign finance is totally corrupt, and any “reform” has either been token or so piecemeal as to be token.
Have you noticed that anyone who is a career politician is devoid of morality and a compulsive liar? They can be categorized as personable psychopathics. Yet, they get elected repeatedly.
We need Steven Colberts to run for office.
Steven Colbert is an actor playing his character running for President (and backed out), so he’s already lying right there. Let’s get real here. Our countrymen are dying in senseless no-win wars, our dollar is crashing, and we’re about to bomb Iran.
I understand people are fed up with politics. I was one of them too! I never voted in my entire life, because none of them passed my BS meter. When I finally saw the one person that was speaking the absolute truth, I was intrigued and did more research. The more I saw, the more I liked. I truly think we have a founding father-type statesman in our midst, but very few of us appear to have even heard of him. Check Ron Paul out. He’s not like any of the politicians in our lifetime, and he is the country’s last chance before we go bankrupt spreading our empire around the world.
John, I don’t think *everyone* who’s a career politician is “devoid of morality” and “compulsive liars.” But enough amoral people enter politics that I think there needs to be a shift in how we view government.
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Dan, thanks for joining in. Ron Paul is a Republican (albeit more of a libertarian), so I don’t see him as a “change” from the “status quo.” I agree with Ron Paul about civil liberties (He was against the Patriot Act, for example), and for that alone, I’d be okay with him if he won. But these are not ordinary times. Paul’s stance on government, taxes, states’ rights (he’s for them) are all positions I disagree with. His views on health care aren’t acceptable to me as well. In some ways, he’s very libertarian and “old school” Republican; in other ways, he’s a typical Republican.
I think his support right now stems largely due to two things: 1) the fact that he supports a lot of the core beliefs of what the Republicans *used* to stand for (such as fiscal responsibility)and 2) he’s very much against the war in Iraq, something that a lot of candidates, Democratic and Republican, aren’t clearly against, or aren’t taking as strong a stand. In that sense, I see his role as similar to Gene McCarthy’s during the 1968 election; a voice of public sentiment over an increasingly unpopular war.
Rep. Kucinich tried to get Cheney impeached, and amazingly enough, the Republicans voted in support of it, and the bill got sent to committee. What’s ironic is that the head of the Judiciary committee wants to impeach Cheney, and the Democrats are humiliated over this. Why are they humiliated over this, I don’t know.
Give me someone like Colbert, or a solid independent who’s fiscally conservative and socially liberal, and I’ll vote for him/her! Colbert could probably run this country better than this administration.
The most interesting thing about this is that if the impeachment portion does ever happen, Cheney will be presiding over his own impeachment proceedings.
From Article 1, Section 3 of the Constitution:
“The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.
“The Senate shall choose their other officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the office of President of the United States.
“The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present.”
Note that there’s an exception if the President of the US has such proceedings against him, but nothing about the Vice-President.