Comments on: Kelby Brick: The First Steps http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:48:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Christopher Brown http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-34361 Christopher Brown Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:15:33 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-34361 I just perused the article (Yes, I know I'm still catching up to all these blogs) and even though Mr. Brick had noble intentions, I felt the tone was rather antagonistic. The adjectives he chose was rather bold and it ended up making him sound like an angry demagogue. But, the claim that the "bureaucracy of paternalism" and the propaganda that Gallaudet has employed to defend its reputation was noteworthy. I just perused the article (Yes, I know I’m still catching up to all these blogs) and even though Mr. Brick had noble intentions, I felt the tone was rather antagonistic. The adjectives he chose was rather bold and it ended up making him sound like an angry demagogue.

But, the claim that the “bureaucracy of paternalism” and the propaganda that Gallaudet has employed to defend its reputation was noteworthy.

]]> By: testing_the_truth http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-33478 testing_the_truth Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:08:14 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-33478 You are a very brave nameless and faceless person. I always admire you nameless and faceless individuals who are so brave to come out and post at blogs. By the way, do you have any point to make or standing to represent?? Just curious... You are a very brave nameless and faceless person. I always admire you nameless and faceless individuals who are so brave to come out and post at blogs.

By the way, do you have any point to make or standing to represent?? Just curious…

]]> By: testing_the_truth http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-33474 testing_the_truth Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:03:34 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-33474 The keyword is reform. Try to think of it like that. Your extreme is not viable. Moderation rules. The keyword is reform. Try to think of it like that. Your extreme is not viable. Moderation rules.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-33376 Anonymous Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:21:20 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-33376 "Please, think about this for a minute before you rush to respond." You really should consider this line before posting here and elsewhere, Zoltan. I'm beginning to see why you were denied tenure at Gallaudet. “Please, think about this for a minute before you rush to respond.”

You really should consider this line before posting here and elsewhere, Zoltan. I’m beginning to see why you were denied tenure at Gallaudet.

]]> By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32733 Joseph Pietro Riolo Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:41:48 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32733 The language of the qualification in respect to Ph.D. is open to two different possible interpretations both of which are not totally unreasonable. On one hand, the language is interpreted to be a mandatory requirement. On the other hand, the language is interpreted to be a preferred qualification (due to the section title "Preferred Qualifications"). The members of the search committee might have wondered how the language was to be interpreted and might have decided that it was to be a preferred but not required qualification. We should not lose the sight of the long list of other preferred qualifications. There are 14 abilities that the search committee was looking for in the candidates. It could be that the committee found Mr. Ron Stern possessed better abilities than Dr. Glenn Anderson. I am not saying that this is how it was done. Without any specific evidences from the search committee primarily because of the rule of confidentiality, I am left to explore different possible theories. Joseph Pietro Riolo josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain. The language of the qualification in respect to Ph.D. is open to two different possible interpretations both of which are not totally unreasonable. On one hand, the language is interpreted to be a mandatory requirement. On the other hand, the language is interpreted to be a preferred qualification (due to the section title “Preferred Qualifications”). The members of the search committee might have wondered how the language was to be interpreted and might have decided that it was to be a preferred but not required qualification.

We should not lose the sight of the long list of other preferred qualifications. There are 14 abilities that the search committee was looking for in the candidates. It could be that the committee found Mr. Ron Stern possessed better abilities than Dr. Glenn Anderson. I am not saying that this is how it was done. Without any specific evidences from the search committee primarily because of the rule of confidentiality, I am left to explore different possible theories.

Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain.

]]> By: Curious Eyes http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32727 Curious Eyes Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:30:09 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32727 Katherine, one of the protestors' issues that I do tend to agree with is that the process by which the candidates were screened and chosen doesn't seem to be transparent enough, or else we would all know the answer to that question. My guess is that a PhD was not *required*, so a person who did not have one could still compete with those who did. Again, I'm guessing, but I think candidates earned points depending on what they said in reply to standard questions. It seems hard to believe, but maybe Stern earned more points than Dr. Anderson? Everyone talks about how the selection process must have been biased in Dr. Fernandes' favor ... there must have been some things that favored Stern as well. I would love to know more about exactly how the search process worked. This would be a great topic for a blog. Katherine, one of the protestors’ issues that I do tend to agree with is that the process by which the candidates were screened and chosen doesn’t seem to be transparent enough, or else we would all know the answer to that question. My guess is that a PhD was not *required*, so a person who did not have one could still compete with those who did. Again, I’m guessing, but I think candidates earned points depending on what they said in reply to standard questions. It seems hard to believe, but maybe Stern earned more points than Dr. Anderson? Everyone talks about how the selection process must have been biased in Dr. Fernandes’ favor … there must have been some things that favored Stern as well. I would love to know more about exactly how the search process worked. This would be a great topic for a blog.

]]> By: Katherine http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32671 Katherine Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:02:57 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32671 Without a Ph.D to begin with, how did Ron Stern, not others with Ph.D, manage to get into the final 3? While I have enormous respect for Ron Stern and I am glad NMSD get to still have him as not many deaf schools have a superintendent like Ron Stern, something is up with the whole search process. In my opinion, this alone should merit for the search process to be re-opened with or without protestors' demand. Without a Ph.D to begin with, how did Ron Stern, not others with Ph.D, manage to get into the final 3? While I have enormous respect for Ron Stern and I am glad NMSD get to still have him as not many deaf schools have a superintendent like Ron Stern, something is up with the whole search process. In my opinion, this alone should merit for the search process to be re-opened with or without protestors’ demand.

]]> By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32303 Joseph Pietro Riolo Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:50:41 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32303 That's correct. Just because Ron Stern was on the final list does not necessarily mean that the process was flawed. Just because Dr. Glenn Anderson was not on the final list does not necessarily mean that the process was flawed. There is no direct relationship between the person being on or not being on the final list and flaw in the process. It does not have to be Dr. Glenn Anderson. It would be any other candidate that was not on the final list. We don't have access to the rating form that the search committee used to assess applicants. (I learned about the rating form from progress report dated March 24, 2006 that was used to be available at http://pr.gallaudet.edu/presidentalsearch/?ID=8412 but it disappeared and I had to use Google to find a cached copy of it.) One possible theory is that Dr. Glenn Anderson did not get a higher score than Ron Stern when the search committee used the rating form to assess them. It is still theory that can't be proven without any strong evidence. Joseph Pietro Riolo josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain. That’s correct. Just because Ron Stern was on the final list does not necessarily mean that the process was flawed. Just because Dr. Glenn Anderson was not on the final list does not necessarily mean that the process was flawed. There is no direct relationship between the person being on or not being on the final list and flaw in the process. It does not have to be Dr. Glenn Anderson. It would be any other candidate that was not on the final list.

We don’t have access to the rating form that the search committee used to assess applicants. (I learned about the rating form from progress report dated March 24, 2006 that was used to be available at http://pr.gallaudet.edu/presidentalsearch/?ID=8412 but it disappeared and I had to use Google to find a cached copy of it.) One possible theory is that Dr. Glenn Anderson did not get a higher score than Ron Stern when the search committee used the rating form to assess them. It is still theory that can’t be proven without any strong evidence.

Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain.

]]> By: Katherine http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32290 Katherine Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:25:29 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32290 Are you saying that by letting Ron Stern, who hasn't gotten his Ph.D yet with no university experience, into the final three while eliminating a more qualified African American candidate, Dr. Glenn Anderson, from the final three doesn't constitute the presidential search process as flawed? Are you saying that by letting Ron Stern, who hasn’t gotten his Ph.D yet with no university experience, into the final three while eliminating a more qualified African American candidate, Dr. Glenn Anderson, from the final three doesn’t constitute the presidential search process as flawed?

]]> By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32224 Joseph Pietro Riolo Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:46:20 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/chris-kaftan/2006-11-02/kelby-brick-the-first-steps/#comment-32224 Nathan raised many good points that have been troubling me for a while. Here is a case in point. People have been claiming that the presidential search process was flawed. Ms. Leah Hager Cohen made a bold statement that strong evidence exists for this claim. But, as best as I can, I could not find the evidence. I even asked for the strong evidence at GallyNet-L forum. No one has offered strong evidence. All we see are speculations. Speculation is not equivalent to evidence. It seems, at least to me, that critical analysis and critical thinking skills are sacrificed to further a group of people's agenda that is not grounded on facts. This does not abode well for the future of Gallaudet University. Joseph Pietro Riolo josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain. Nathan raised many good points that have been troubling me for a while. Here is a case in point. People have been claiming that the presidential search process was flawed. Ms. Leah Hager Cohen made a bold statement that strong evidence exists for this claim. But, as best as I can, I could not find the evidence. I even asked for the strong evidence at GallyNet-L forum. No one has offered strong evidence. All we see are speculations. Speculation is not equivalent to evidence.

It seems, at least to me, that critical analysis and critical thinking skills are sacrificed to further a group of people’s agenda that is not grounded on facts. This does not abode well for the future of Gallaudet University.

Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain.

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