Informed Decisions, Parents Know Best, and Other Mythical Creatures (III of III)
By Chris Heuer on Thu 16 Aug 2007 |
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Helen Keller is alleged to have once said that “deafness cuts people off from people.” I not only disagree with this statement, I abhor it. This message has grown over time from something that is merely false into a lie that continuously erodes our community with almost unbearable pain, intolerance, and hatred. Deafness does not cut people off from people—people cut people off from people. Or more precisely, the decisions that people make cut them off from each other.
Much has been made of morality throughout the debate over what type of parental choice is “best” for a deaf child. Should his parents have him implanted? Should they expose him to ASL? The consequences for making the wrong choice are potentially dire, so perhaps such an intense focus on morality is to be expected. But any argument regarding what is moral must by definition be predicated upon what is true, so let’s return to Keller’s statement for a moment. “Deafness cuts people off from people.” Why should such a belief be so destructive?
Once we delude ourselves into accepting deafness as the cause of even one negative sociological condition, it becomes that much easier to accept deafness as the cause of all other negative sociological conditions. This is why much educational research of the early 20th century (and decades prior to that) placed such a strong emphasis on the “fact” that deafness caused illiteracy among large numbers of deaf children and adults. Compartively less emphasis was placed on the choices that people were making in regard to communicating with deaf people. It’s also why we often see what started out as an accurate correlation between groups (such as the simple observation that there are large numbers of unemployed/underemployed deaf people in the United States—a true statement) become a faulty cause-effect relationship, with the implication being that deafness itself causes unemployment. In fact such a faulty relationship can become self-perpetuating. When no further explanation is deemed necessary, the implication stands. And because the implication stands, no further explanation is deemed necessary.
Yet we know that these types of statements are not true. If prelingual deafness caused illiteracy there would simply be no prelingually deafened literate people. If deafness caused unemployment, there would be no deaf people with jobs. Thus we’re left with disturbing questions that end up showing us exactly why we avoided asking them in the first place. Which is more likely: My deafness (a physiological condition) refused to hire me; or some potential employer (a person able to make decisions though riddled with fears and prejudices of his own) refused to hire me? Did my deafness spit in my ear when I was ten years old, or did one of the children I attended elementary school with do this? Does my deafness render me unable to fit in; bereft of many social and educational opportunities? Or do other peoples’ reactions to my deafness ultimately have more to do with whether or not I fit in? With whether or not I have access to the same opportunities everyone else has?
We already know the answers to these questions. We just don’t like them.
Many times in my career, I have held my silence when a parent, teacher, or a researcher blamed deafness for whatever negative outcome befell a deaf child. I won’t do that anymore, because I now believe the action to be immoral. It makes no sense to strenuously argue for a parent’s “right to decide in the end” and then turn right around and enable a parent to pretend that his choice wasn’t ever really his choice if the outcome isn’t the one he hoped for. This happens every time we accept deafness itself as a rationalization for failure. “I tried my best,” a parent might argue, “but deafness is a disability.” Or else a school administrator might say: “We based our educational practices upon what we knew about deafness at that time.” Do you notice how both types of statements shift the focus back to deafness itself, and away from the decision that was made in response to deafness?
Does a deaf child fail to acquire fluency in English because his parents made the decision to not expose him to ASL, or because he’s deaf? The answer cannot be the latter, because deafness alone does not lead to a lack of English language acquisition. Every time that we do not point this out, we’re lying. Every time we let a person assume that a negative outcome is the fault of deafness, we’re lying. Deafness is not the true source of the problem. Other people are the source of the problem. If they aren’t, why should A.G. Bell or the NAD bother with advocacy efforts at all? You can’t advocate with deafness itself. You can only advocate with other people. Deafness is not conscious in the way that people are. It has no value—be it negative or positive—other than the value people give to it. It can’t give value to or take value away from itself. It can’t really do anything other than make you deaf. It certainly can’t make you miserable.
Less than a month ago my mother again asked me when I went home to visit if I would consider getting an implant, seeing how well my brother’s implant was working out for him. In her eyes I saw all of the hope that I would like to believe most hearing parents have for their deaf children.
So understandable, but also so sad. What is it, really, that she’s hoping for? In her case, what did my deafness ever isolate me from that an implant is now supposed to fix? I asked her many times over the years to learn to sign. She didn’t, and neither did most of my family. That’s the end of it. Nothing can take that away now or take it back. An implant can’t. Another person berating me for my “unreasonable” expectation that everyone else change for me can’t take it away. Even if I get an implant, even if I someday hear again; even if hearing again is a great, wonderful, and beautiful thing; I’m still going to have to look at my own family and live with the knowledge that when they had the choice to include me by learning to sign, they ultimately chose not to do it. They’re going to have to live with that knowledge too. And there is nothing that A.G. Bell or any cochlear implant specialist in the world can do to make that not true.
Thus I end this series with a message for all parents of deaf children: As someone’s son, as someone’s brother and friend, as a man who will someday be a father himself; I have learned much over the years about forgiveness. I have worked through many of my feelings regarding what deafness has and hasn’t done to me. I have come to develop an understanding of why people make the decisions that they do, and how they justify those decisions years later. I’ve seen the very best examples of human responsibility and accountability. I’ve seen people go to incredible lengths to right the things they came to realize that they once did wrong.
I’ve also seen the very worst of human nature, the very worst of human laziness, and emotional paralysis brought on by fear.
You owe nothing to me but you owe your child everything, because the younger he is, the less capacity he has to make choices for himself. Therefore he must depend upon you to make those choices for him, and his life may very well come to hinge upon the choices you make. So don’t make your decisions based on the hardships you think deafness will cause your child. Make them based on hardships that you think other people—including yourselves—might cause your child, because then you’ll include the consequences of your own actions among that potential list. You’ll include what might someday develop into your own unwillingness to see a mistake you might have made, and to fix it. You’ll include teachers who might say something can’t be done when in reality they aren’t willing to do it. And you’ll include doctors and organizations that may care less about what’s best for your child and more about the illusion that curing deafness will make a dent in humanity’s historical and general difficulty with tolerating anything that is different.
It won’t. So you’ll have to.
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Chris,
Wow…well said and powerful. But a hard question to ask ya: when you become a parent…do you feel that some of the above statements as well as the previous two postings will alter once that precious child of yours starts growing and you’re face with difficult choices? Just a thought…
Actually, Josh, it doesn’t. If you’re a parent of a Deaf child (like I am), it motivates you to fight even harder for your Deaf child.
Chris, we are indebted to your very thoughful prodding analysis. I saved all of your articles.
Josh, difficulty lies within one not being willing to take/offer all options s/he c o u l d.
AM,
That’s true…but it’s even more humbling-I believe-that for someone who’s NOT a parent can go through an even more life-changing philosophy when children are born and choices are made whether for good or bad, yet a profound look within oneself for answers that are cluttered all around the atmosphere. Case in point, LaRonda’s response to mine just below…
I’ll say this much– Chris’s posts are definitely more coherent and well-stated than the opinions listed in this article:
http://www.zak.co.il/deaf-info/old/gambling.html
Deafness IS a disability. It IS a medical condition. Pretending otherwise is just silly.
Deafness doesn’t stop people from doing things. People and the decisions they make stop deaf people from doing things. Pretending otherwise is denial, and absolves them of responsibility for their part in the overall problem.
Noelle, I’d like to add to that. I don’t mean what I said above in the sense of… okay, deafness doesn’t stop me from listening to an I-Pod. Obviously it does. I mean it in the sense of… I’m a functioning, capable adult. Overall, when I look back on it, my deafness itself gave me a lot less of a hassle than did other people. And I think it is high time that we called people on this point. If a parent’s decision is REALLY a decision, then I think deafness itself should be off limits when it comes to finding a reason for why something failed. I think we should start looking at the decisions themselves.
That’s all I mean.
I’m deaf, and I have an iPod. I quite enjoy listening to it. There are varying degrees of deafness, and the thing that bothers me about the whole “Should hearing parents implant their deaf kids debate?” is that the experience of the Deaf adults can’t be generally applied to those experiences that those implanted deaf children will have.
Since deafness is a medical condition, a disability, it has to be taken into account when it comes to a child’s chances of succeeding or failing. You can’t separate it as a whole component since there are many roots of cause and effect that come from deafness itself.
When hearing parents implant their deaf children, they do take their child’s future into account, for instance they’ll want that deaf child to succeed in school, not to be discriminated against when it comes to applying to jobs, and they want that deaf child to assimiliate better into the hearing environment because as you’ve noticed, this world we’re living in aren’t populated by the Deaf, but by the hearing.
Say, if my child was far-sighted or near-sighted, I’d give her glasses. If my child was deaf, I’d give her a cochlear implant because I would want her to have that so she can succeed with that as a tool.
Noelle, I’ve tried hard to steer clear of attaching morality or immorality to one type of decision over another. I’m not against implants. I hope I’ve made that clear. If what I’m saying comes across like I have a bias against them, that’s because I disagree with some of the thinking that goes into the decision to get one or not.
“You can’t separate it as a whole component since there are many roots of cause and effect that come from deafness itself.”
Okay, what root causes? If deafness caused discrimination, all people would discriminate against the deaf, but not everyone does. So how is the root cause in deafness? I think the root cause is in peoples’ reactions to deafness. We have the freedom to choose our reactions, do we not? Well it just seems to me that when we let a person discriminate (or some other negative action), for example, and we allow him to get away with it by saying something akin to “Hey, it’s not MY fault… the kid is DEAF!” then we’re in effect allowing him to deny his own responsibility, his own part in what happened.
I’ve been a teacher for many years. I can’t count the number of time I’ve seen abusive and lazy teachers say something like “He obviously has some sort of brain damage. He can’t be educated.” They had no sense of accountability whatsoever for their own inability to sign, to pursue the best research and best teaching practices, etc. And those kids internalized this message. You can’t tell me that’s not wrong, what those teachers did. Many of those kids would have had a chance. It sickens me that they not only weren’t given one, but they were also BLAMED for not being given one (or at least their deafness was blamed).
(Side note… the I-Pod thing… I mean *me* personally… *my* deafness stops me from listening to one. I’m as deaf as a proverbial post. I only bring it up because I agree that it’s foolish to deny that deafness is what it is. But it’s incorrect to imply that deafness causes a whole host of things that it doesn’t in fact cause, and discrimination and rejection are two such things).
I don’t think teachers should give deaf children a free pass and not hold them accountable for their education or reactions. Deaf children should be held accountable for their education to the same standard their hearing peers are.
Actually the debate revolves the child to be all s/he can be with full accessible language-social cognitive experience than whether to implant him/her or not. That is to allow the child to grow bilingually and figure out him/herself to be what s/he finds him/herself capable of with all possibilities and support.
There are many parents who choose not to teach their children bilingualism, especially hearing parents of hearing kids. They have the same right to do that with their deaf children as well, even though some of you may not agree with it.
At the time my parents made the decision to educate me via the oral method, they didn’t have much information available to them the way parents today do. People make decisions based on the information they have at the time, incomplete or not. People don’t always have access to the latest, best information about things when they make decisions. I’m not saying this excuses parents’ decisions to implant their children, but merely stating that they may have only been given a certain set of information on which to make their decision.
And we all know that human nature, being what it is, tends to look for information to support individual biases when it comes to making decisions. Rare are the people who look at all sides of issues prior to making a decision. So, I don’t really feel I can second-guess my parents’ thought processes those many years ago (as much as I’d like to do it!).
Jill, that’s why I keep emphasizing that the deaf community needs to make their information and perspective more accessible. I’m working on that myself, but it takes time and a lot of manpower.
Parents need to hear and see from as MANY perspectives as possible, to make a fully informed decision for what’s best for their child.
Noelle,
You would be enlightened after reading Edward Dolnick’s article. “Deafness as a Culture” in Atlantic Monthly (Sept. 1993) as well as readers’ responses (Dec. 1993, p. 8).
Chris,
You are an amazing writer! Your thoughts are profound. Your concepts are deep and it takes a while to chew on them. They make sense. I just wrote a post with similar concepts over at:
http://www.earofmyheart.com/wo.....yheart.com
called: Deafhood: A Parent’s Journey.
Your writing inspires me.
A response for Josh above: In my personal experience, having a child definitely changed my outlook on life. I thought I knew so much, and yet becoming a parent humbles you. You often have to start over and learn as you go. Chris’s thoughts are definitely worth mulling over for any would-be parent.
~ LaRonda
Sorry, that link didn’t come through. Let me try again: You can find my post at:
http://www.earofmyheart.com/wordpress/?p=269
~ LaRonda
Hi,
My husband and I have 2 Deaf daughters. One do have a hearing aid but chose not to wear it. As a parent, we respect the child of what she chose. It is her body and her ears not mine.
As a parent it isn’t always easy to make decision for our girls. Which school should they attend? Should we let them have hearing aid or cochlear implant?
FYI, we are Deaf and this is what we decided. Girls will be who they are… They are meant to be Deaf not be implanted or anything. They are meant to learn ASL. They are meant to give us headaches and laughters. It isn’t easy to see other parents in the community giving us dirty looks at times. It isn’t easy to listen to some people who complain about the school we are sending the girls to. But this is what we chose..
Technology will come and go as well. They aren’t 100 percent reliable. I am sorry but it is true. Many parents are not well informed and that is sad.
Paraphrased quote from Malcolm X:
“Worst crime the whites did toward us were to make us hate ourselves.”
Exhange the word ‘white’ for ‘hearing.
Thanks, Margaret Fox, the reporter at New York Times and an author of a book coming soon.
What book are you talking about here? I’m curious and wondered…
Watch for it on my blog when I review it. Coming soon :).
Noelle,
It is definitely *not* silly to debate whether deafness is a disability.
The term “disabled” must be interpreted in context, i.e., who is disabled from doing what?
Are deaf people disabled in relation to the universe and nature itself? If so, are we all disabled because we cannot see infrared or ultraviolet light? Are hearing people disabled, because hearing people cannot hear above or below certain frequencies? Are women disabled because of the female musculature? Are men disabled because they cannot give birth?
The answer to all these types of questions has to be no. Every being and every animal in the universe is a finite creature with limited and specific powers. This is normal.
It is also normal to have body parts that are functionally unnecessary, such as the human appendix. It is a vestigial feature.
When you get right down to the crux of the issue, the issue of disability is something that only makes sense when you are talking about how deaf people and hearing people relate to each other. It’s a *relationship* issue, i.e., a social issue. *Both* hearing people and deaf people are *equally* disabled in the context of certain types of deaf-hearing interaction.
In that sense, it is perfectly logical and proper to say that deaf people are not disabled. Disability is a social concept that applies to humans in their actions with each other.
You might argue that humans evolved to have hearing, and therefore it is natural and normal for humans to hear. My answer is that you have to break it down to time periods. It was natural and normal in pre-history when humans needed hearing to survive in a world dominated by non-human animals. Times have changed and now humans do not require the sense of hearing to survive. It is an “extra” capability.
By conquering the animal world, humans have made it unnecessary to have the sense of hearing. The lack of this “extra” feature becomes a social question of how people relate to each other.
Click on name (above) to read more on the topic.
Um, people still need hearing to survive. Let’s not forget that deaf girl who was struck by a train. Let’s not forget that hearing guy who couldn’t hear the car coming because other noises were interfering with his hearing.
Hearing is one of the five senses, and without it, we are disabled. That itself is true. The same goes for blind people. They are disabled. The same goes for people in wheelchairs, with prosthetics, and various ailments. They are disabled. To them, their disability is not a cultural identity.
The rest of the deaf population do not have that deaf cultural identity because they are in the mainstream. You, us, and in this blog, are members of a minority. We are outside of the mainstream. A lot of Deaf people have Deaf parents. They are the ones driving this cultural identity debate.
Noelle,
Your comment about hearing to survive and train/car accident. That is myth. There are millions of hearing people were killed by cars and trains. Your comment is irrelevant.
Deafchip
So the woman who saved my life by pushing me out of the way when a car rushed by, wasn’t using her hearing to help me survive? I have a cochlear implant, but it’s directional hearing, and I didn’t hear the car coming, but she did.
Noelle, a lot of hearing people get run over by cars.
I would wager that people get run over by cars most of the time because they’re not paying attention.
Or they’re on their iPods :-P
They can use their eyes to look around, you know. Eyes are quite useful for that. :P
Unless they’re wearing sunglasses :-D
Oh, I wasn’t aware that sunglasses blinded you. Glad I never wear ‘em! :)
They can if you wear them at night and you’re listening to an iPod. In which case, you would be an extremely dumb person to do that and deserves a Darwin award :-)
Not Darwin award. Just dumbness award. Darwin never once claimed that dumbness can not be selected if it best allows for success to survive till such a time for reproducing.
I guess you haven’t heard of the infamous Darwin awards. Go to http://www.darwinawards.com, and you’ll see what I was talking about.
Noel,
Didn’t you know that I save a hearing kid from the car. He did not pay attention to the car. He depended on sound that could trick him. Hearing and Deaf depend on each other to survive.
Did you know that people who think hearing is better than deaf are audists. Same with white people who think white is better than non white are racists.
People look down on any kind of people They have mental illness/problem. It has nothing to do with personal opinion. Mental illness overrides personal opinion. For example child molesters said they have their own personal opinion that they should molest their children. That is not personal opinion but that is MENTAL ILLNESS/PROBLEM. Same with audists, molesters, racists, ableists, sexists, etc.
Deafchip
Heh! Yeah, if you’re walking around at night with sunglasses on and an iPod blaring, you deserve the Darwin award for stupidity. I love that site, by the way!
Noelle,
Train accidents are part of the social problem that I talked about, i.e. it involves how people relate to each other. In the case of a train accident *both* the train engineer and the deaf person who is killed are *equally* disabled.
It’s a social problem having to do with the design of trains and railroad crossings. In *some* circumstances, yes, deaf people are disabled, but then the hearing people are *also* disabled in those circumstances. You have to read what I wrote carefully.
We’ll have to continue this on another day, because it’s off topic.
Hasn’t it occurred to you that it showed deaf people are better drivers than hearing people by ratio? What does the ability to hear prove in this case? This is one of examples where their hearing has disabled them into not being a better driver than a deaf person. There are strengths and weaknesses in everyone and just because we lack something doesn’t necessarily mean we are disabled.
Noelle:
In fact, deaf of hearing (from all walks of life) far outnumber deaf of deaf in the Deaf community where cultural identity is valued. Many of them are no different than many gay/lesbian who were in closet or didn’t realize their homosexual identity, growing up in a heterosexual family, until they leave home to be on their own. Now, that is slowly changing for some gay children in the heterosexual household.
I will not argue with you on disability. Because the deaf has a culture and language separate from English not found in other disabilities, how about recognizing cultural/linguistic minority other than disability? Even if we are disabled in the eyes of the society, I do not think it should be used to lessen the value in ASL, Deaf Culture and its community.
I’m not questioning the value in ASL, Deaf Culture, and the community itself, but what I am questioning is the approach of the Deaf community in their ‘education’ of hearing parents because that approach isn’t informative, just biased, and puts those hearing parents on the defensive for having their deaf children implanted or even considering the AVT method.
It is utterly fallacious to compare deafness to a sexual orientation. It doesn’t even begin to compare.
Noelle,
Edward Dolnick puts it best: “There are any number of factual ways in which groups of people differ — short people can’t dunk a basketball, men don’t live as long as women — and they certainly don’t all count as disabilities….Should human beings pine over our impoverished visual world because bees can detect ultraviolet light and we cannot?” (Source: “Deafness as a Culture” in Atlantic Monthly Magazine, Dec. 1993, page 8.)
I would say that in the very strict sense in medical terms, yes we are disabled.
But let’s think about it. We all are disabled in one or another way. Some more severe than others. It is up to us to make of it what it is.
I do not consider myself to be disabled, or to have a disability, and I resent it when people try to tell me, ‘No. You are, and you’re crazy if you don’t think you’re not.’
I am a part of a linguistic minority culture. Make no mistake about it - it is a valid, true linguistic minority culture. Parents of deaf children need to be made aware of that, but like it’s been said repeatedly in the past by me and others, it entails a lot of work. Dialogue with the medical profession, educators and so on.
Not very many parents are truly aware about ASL and Deaf culture - and what they do know of it, is often twisted by the doctors and educators. And no, that isn’t a hyperbole - it’s a fact.
Once we establish a good, solid foundation for presenting to the masses that we do have our own culture, THEN we can start making decent headway into assisting parents in making their decisions. But that’ll take years, especially since, and I hate to say this, we tend to be our own worst enemies. So yeah.. it’ll take years before that’s accomplished. :P
Saying something is a matter of medical terminology is the same as leaving the issue to doctors to decide. It doesn’t answer the question.
No, it isn’t, Brian. Just because the doctors say so, doesn’t mean it has to define us. We define who we are.
I acknowledge that I’m deaf, and I know it’s a medical disability, but does it define who I am or how I perceive myself? Not really. I don’t wake up every morning thinking that I’m deaf or disabled. I’m just me.
I am saying that it is *wrong* for doctors to say that deafness is a disability. Please re-read my long post above.
It’s not wrong for them to say that. Deafness IS a disability. Blindness IS a disability. Diabetes IS a disability. Mental retardation IS a disability. Having no limbs IS a disability.
I agree. Those are life limiting conditions but it doesn’t mean that we should limit ourselves because of it. People need to learn and accept their own disability but it doesn’t mean we are disabled.
This feeds in to my comment at the bottom (#86535 if anyone wants to look). I’m trying to stay out of the whole issue on whether or not deafness is a disability. It doesn’t matter. Other people will have reactions to your deafness whether you think it’s a disability or not, and if those reactions are negative and/or avoidant, oppressive, whatever, then it’s a pretty safe bet to say that your deafness itself was not so much the problem. Their reaction was. And to acknowledge this doesn’t mean you’re wallowing in self-pity, or that you’ve become an angry deaf person, or that everything is audism now, or that you’re living in denial about your medical condition. It just means that people can be ignorant, discriminatory, insensitive and downright hostile jerks. This is why, even after you get the implant, you might still bump into someone–hearing or deaf–who’ll call you a Borg drone or treat you like you’re mentally retarded and refuse to hire you because of that. The problem is in people. How many kids have gotten glasses and presto they can see again but then other kids call them four-eyed fishbowl freaks? But wait, they can see again! What’s the PROBLEM?
Hm.
Either ignore them or educate them.
I’m doing my best, Mike.
You’re just making assertions without responding to any of the arguments I made above.
I’d say the doctors are correct that hearing loss is a condition of a disability (medical term). But it wouldn’t be right to say that a deaf person is disabled.
I’ve no problem with that.
You?
That’s your own little corner of concern.
If deaf people are not “disabled”, it is okay to discriminate against them. The law doesn’t protect people without disabilities. (Or people who merely have “medical conditions”.) And reasonable accommodation is only provided to those with disabilities. I get confused when deaf people yell “audism” but then turn around and say “we are not disabled.”
Well thank God someone cleared that up! Then it must be okay to discriminate against women, black people, homosexuals, and so forth, because these conditions are neither disabilities nor medical conditions (though of course some people might disagree with the “medical conditions” part seeing how they’ve had sex change operations, gone the route of Michael Jackson, and so forth, but we’ll leave that argument for another time).
You’re right, MJ, I was confused too! I mean, obviously I can now see how forcing me to accept the term disabled so that I qualify for accomodations in the first place isn’t in and of itself an act of audism (or should I say just plain old oppression?). It’s kind of like me as a man building an environment where everything weighs fifty pounds more. And the only way I’ll agree to design things so that they’re lighter (so that you can pick them up too without dislocating a shoulder while going about the task of living your life) is if you accept the “truth” that women are the weaker sex!
Does that piss you off? Gosh, can’t imagine why! How many men out there are confused by the fact that women want equal pay but generally can’t handle two-thirds of the raw hard physical work that men can?
(PS no I don’t really believe the above horseshit that I just wrote about women. Just making a point that is inevitably going to be shot down by the first person who responds “But that’s not the same thing because being a woman isn’t a disability but being deaf is!”)
(PS#2 Is anyone out there still wondering why this community is as screwed up as it is?)
MJ,
You have hit the nail on the head beautifully. Pure and simple. Yet, most people fail to see it under their nose.
Gotcha, MJ. I privately ask myself if deaf people really know what audism mean when they cry audism, audist, etc. Fine, hearing people could cry deafism against us deafies then?
Thank god the end to this insane rambling madness. Three parts, I would hope the editors of deafdc would spare us the head ache of anymore one-man shows hat goe on for days and days about nothing.
My friend made the good point to me the other day after I repsonded that in the hearing world, I am deaf, and in the deaf world, I feel like I am considered “hearing” because I can function well in the mainstream society. I have social mobility and I enjoy it. My friend pointed out that her sister-in-law is mixed race, but her father was absent and her mother raised her in the mother’s origin environment. So in one environment, she is one entity and in the other, she is considered the opposite.
My point is, I think the parent should raise their child based on the environment they are IN. There will always be a polar. I am the only deaf one in my family and my parents wanted me to be included in everything they do without having everyone else I come into contact with learn an alternate way to communicate. There is no right or wrong answer. Each side has its own argument. I think the parent should raise the child based on their background, not what other people assume.
Ditto. This is about the parent’s right to raise their child according to their language, cultural beliefs, and religion.
Well said. Only if everyone knew that. I seriously think this world would be a lot more harmonious.
Afterall, if everyone were the same, it’d be pretty boring!
Noelle, you are mixing two or more issues together. Parents have the right to decide within the context of their lives, but that doesn’t mean it is wise to deprive deaf babies the opportunity to be exposed to ASL.
But it’s not proven if they TRULY need ASL if the cochlear implant is very beneficial for them if they are implanted in infancy.
It’s pretty tough to teach a baby ASL when a parent doesn’t know the language.
It’s easier to present a communication strategy at infancy than it is for an advanced brain to learn a language after having passed the critical stage. (Better for a baby to learn English first, as opposed to a parent learning ASL and then teaching the baby)
Exactly. This was my point earlier in one of Chris’s post on this issue. I don’t want a hearing parent to teach a language that they’re not familiar with to their deaf child because that child won’t grow up with the same fluency in ASL that, say, a Deaf child would if brought up by Deaf parents.
That’s why hearing parents prefer to raise their deaf children in their native language, which is English.
No one should deprive a deaf baby of access to a natural language from birth on. For deaf babies, the only natural language is a signed language.
It’s simply not right to deprive the infant of *all* access to language before they are implanted.
Some would say that if those deaf babies were implanted, that their natural language would be their parents’ language, such as English.
Why do you think it’s OK to totally deprive the baby of *all* access to langauge before being implanted?
It doesn’t really matter, as long the baby learns A language. Of course, it is best that the parent knows the language, but if the parent is committed and has the proper support and resources, the parent can learn ASL along with the baby.
It was done with me, and many others.
If you don’t like it, don’t read it. This negative comment with zero constructive feedback or specific reasons why you don’t like it was completely unnecessary. I don’t like many posts and comments on DeafDC because they’re too extreme, like Noelle’s insisting that deafness is a disability and nothing else. But I shut up and confine my comments to stuff that actually contributes to the discussion. It’s not too much to ask you to either do the same or ignore posts you don’t like.
My position that deafness is a medical disability is not extreme. It is a commonly held position by most Americans in this country.
Noelle, I agree with your point that deafness is a physical disability, medical or otherwise, and that Heuer’s self-absorptive blogs inspire an excessive amount of navel-gazing that serves no useful purpose and contributes nothing.
Bert, you’re just making an assertion and then you’re resorting to name-calling.
Why don’t you make a substantive contribution?