Four Steps Beyond Putting Your Foot Down–Conflict Resolution Made Easy
By Chris Heuer on Tue 15 May 2007 |
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There’s a lot of discussion going on these days about conflict resolution… what it is, what it means, and how it should be approached. I think this type of discussion is good and I’d like to contribute my own little story. The following happened to me when I was an undergrad at UW-Milwaukee:
I had an interpreter who didn’t like me. That’s about the long and short of it. We had run-ins more than a couple of times during the fall semester of my junior year. I had her for Psychoanalytical Theory or something like that. And I must add that I did indeed consider her to be an excellent subject for ongoing psychoanalysis.
ADA was a newborn fawn back then. Everybody was trying to make sense of who the hell was entitled to what. I stayed out of the melee for the most part. I was set. I needed interpreters and note takers. I already had my own TDD and vibrating alarm clock, and I didn’t much care about the flashing light fire alarm thing. My roommates would often set it off as a joke, but nine times out of ten I’d just sleep through it anyway.
Now before I get into this, there’s something you need to understand about UW-M: “Lectures” are not tiny little classrooms of fifteen students listening to a professor drone on and on. Lectures are huge auditoriums nearly packed with hundreds of people listening to the professor drone on and on. All of the deaf students were expected to sit in the first row. But nobody else sat in the first row. So after a while, I didn’t either. I sat in the second so that I could put my foot/feet (I’d switch a lot) up on the armrests of the first. After about a week the other deaf students were doing this too.
To us it was no big deal. We could still see the interpreter. She could still see us. There were plenty of seats left. If somebody else wanted to sit down we would’ve moved our feet. Plus we weren’t the only people doing it. You might wonder how I could know this since everybody was behind me. I left class once to go to the bathroom while the lecture was still in session. What I saw was utter bedlam! Wherever there was an empty seat, the person sitting immediately behind it had his or her feet up on an armrest!
When you look at it that way, I guess it isn’t hard to understand why our interpreter was so lividly enraged with me all of the time. I mean, obviously the whole class was out of control due to my corrupting influence! So one day she rebelled and stopped interpreting in the middle of class.
As luck would have it I was the only deaf student who bothered to go that day. Right in the middle of a fascinating stream of discourse on just how much coke Freud actually snorted, she signed: “Put your foot down,” and let her hands drop to her lap.
Believe me, she was not kidding. She had been silently glowering at me since the semester began. A week earlier I nodded off for about five minutes during a discussion on Maslow’s hierarcy of needs because frankly I needed to sleep (it was the morning after that one time in ten where my roommates’ setting off the flashing fire alarm actually woke me up). She may have taken this as an insult to her skills, which was why she kicked the chair. I tried to apologize after class but my apology was muffled by a yawn. This probably didn’t do much to improve relations between us.
Still, even way back in that fledgling ADA year of 1990, I was pretty sure that it wasn’t kosher for an interpreter to just stop signing like that. Especially if she was withholding information in the first place in order to make me do what she wanted me to do.
Thus after she hadn’t signed a word for nearly a full minute, I put my foot down. Regardless of what anyone tells you, doing this is always the first step in conflict resolution. If you do it right, putting your foot down can be both a peacemaking gesture and an act of assertiveness all at once.
Then I waited for class to end. As soon as it was over, I told her that I wanted to speak with her privately out in the hallway. She initially shook her head as if to say no, and then moved to walk past me. I spoke quietly yet forcefully and said we could either talk privately or we could talk in front of her boss. She rolled her eyes and stalked toward the hallway, where she then waited.
After most of the students had left the lecture hall and filed past us, I signed, “Do you have a problem with me?” This is the second step in conflict resolution: Find out why you are not getting what you believe you are entitled to. But as you set about finding out, give the other person as much dignity and privacy as possible.
“I’m fed up with your attitude,” she signed. “You slouch in your seat, you sleep in class, and you don’t pay attention! You’re lucky to be getting an education at all! Meanwhile I’m sitting there interpreting and you’re half-dead!”
This is the third step in conflict resolution: listen. Use your ears, your eyes, or your heart—whichever works best—but shut up and listen. You lose nothing in conducting a thorough study of your opponent’s belief system. At worst you gain insight into how to handle him or her should the conflict escalate. At best you gain an idea of how to make peace, or whether or not peace is even warranted.
I looked at her. She was all of twenty-five, twenty-six years old, tops. I was twenty. In a way the whole thing reminded me of past fights with my older sisters, who were always pushing or shushing me one way or the other. The memories were irritating, and this interpreter was irritating, but I kept my patience. That’s the fourth step in conflict resolution: keep your patience and rephrase your opponent’s argument. This makes your opponent feel “heard,” which can go a long way toward calming that person down.
“Okay,” I said, “basically what I’m getting is that you resent it when I put my feet up on the seat and nod off once in a while. It makes me look unappreciative and lazy—and in fact you think I am lazy—and that angers you. A lot of deaf people never make it this far. I should be more thankful for my education and the work you’re contributing toward it as my interpreter.”
She softened noticeably when I said this, and signed: “There are a lot of people who never make it to college. Not just deaf people. Hearing people too.”
Her clarification led us to the fifth and final stage of conflict resolution, which is standing up for yourself.
“All right,” I replied, “After this semester, I don’t want to work with you again. Furthermore, if you ever again stop signing in one of my classes like you did today, I will immediately report you to your supervisor. I’m also going to tell every deaf person I know on this campus to not put up with the kind of thing that happened here. But I won’t mention you by name when I tell them.”
She immediately became defensive again, but I held up my hand, indicating that it was still my turn to speak. “The reason I won’t mention you by name is that you deserve a chance to screw up. And you did. I don’t work for you. I don’t answer to you. I answer to myself, and then the professor, and someday my boss. You don’t figure into that at all. You never did, and you never will.”
She gasped, her eyes widening in shock. “This is what I mean about your attitude,” she signed, hissing. “There are days I don’t even want to come to this class. Because of this!” She gestured as if to point out the words that still hung in the air between us.
“Then don’t,” I said, and walked away. There was much more I could have said, but didn’t. So I was already earning an “A” in the class (in fact I also eventually passed with an “A”). So half of the class—yes, the hearing students too—had their feet up on the armrests and were dozing away. So what? Justify myself with any of this in her presence, and I’d in effect be answering to her!
In standing up for yourself, strive to do what you said you were going to do. And strive to never do what you said you wouldn’t. This maxim will bring you to an immediate and in-depth understanding of exactly what you are and are not capable of. This in turn will cause you to define the consequences you will administer with extreme care. If you do not develop the capability to do this, people will not take you seriously.
And once they don’t, it becomes that much harder to stand up for yourself.
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Chris,
Excellent article, definitely. I enjoy your articles, thank you for taking the time to write them. :o)
By the way, my wife, Michele Ketcham has shown me emails you sent via Gally Net-L, and I must say, you’ve got your stuff together totally. You’ve got a good head on your shoulders. :o)
My wife commented: “He GETS IT”. And I agree. :o)
Best Regards,
Erick Ketcham
Oh, my, this bad interpreter story takes the cake! I wouldn’t have given her a second chance like you did!
Interpreters that I have known DO their job no matter if the deaf person is asleep, looking elsewhere, writing, or has a foot on a chair. Stopping because of your behavior is inappropriate and unprofessional. Taking anything you do personally is childish.
Interpreters realize that sitting at attention with eyes fixed on their face is tiring, especially for a student that must do it four to eight hours a day after hitting the books all night and surviving dorm hijinks. They must do their best to keep their signs interesting, quick and accurate, and avoid the kind of pace that puts one to sleep. Having a snit is not helpful and that interpreter should be sent elsewhere.
Dianerez,
Isn’t that passing the “problem” onto another deaf person? This is where the importance of interpreter certification and standards come in, especially re-certification of interpreters who may have slipped through the cracks.
Smacks of paternalism, that interpreter’s attitude. You handled it beautifully. I have no idea how I would have reacted - usually I go straight to the coordinator of interpreting services to lodge a complaint, and ask for another interpreter.
What year was this that it happened? When was your Junior Year at UW-Mil?
The reason why I ask this Question:
I know they only just recently started enforcing the Client/Professional Code of Conduct.
But, as I may agree that the interpreter was wrong in trying to enforce her personal beliefs upon you was wrong and inappropriate, I think you should remember that the interpreter is another person, not a cold hearted mindless robot.
It was 1990.
I think people run into these sorts of situations all through life. Not just with interpreters but all sorts of people.
They expect you to conform to their standards and expect you to accept their opinions.
The point of the article, stand up for yourself without making the situation worse, applies to all of these situations.
Excellent reading.
Dennis
Good post, Chris.
One thing tho…although I do understand what you mean about those large classes (I both studied and lectured at the University of Wisconsin in Madison), it would seem to me that the professor would have/should have noticed that she had stopped signing. But then, I suppose that most professors don’t know a thing about interpreting and wouldn’t have said or done anything.
I guess the point I am making is that it is the professor’s class. It is up to him/her to control what goes on the class, and what kind of conduct s/he is willing to tolerate from the students. If the professor wants to make a fool out of a student by calling upon the individual while said student is busy snoring away, that certainly is one way to get the message across - stay awake in my class or else!
But like you said, it’s not the interpreter’s job. It’s not her place to determine whether or not you fail the class. This is one of the things that I think some interpreters fail to realize - that your grade in the class is not dependent upon them. For that matter, I think this is something that some Deaf students need to keep in mind as well…it’s easy to want to blame the interpreter when you don’t do well in a class and claim it’s all based on “communication problems and lack of adequate skills,” yadda yadda yadda. While there may certainly be some truth to such (and often is), the bottom line remains - YOU are the one taking the class, not the interpreter. YOU are the one who is accountable for the grade you receive.
So it’s up to YOU to take responsibility for whatever happens in that class, which includes resolving any conflicts that might occur (using Chris’s excellent suggestions), any communication breakdowns, any misunderstandings, any need for clarification of class expectations, any issues with the professor, etc. etc.
Everyone has a role to play, and everyone needs to clearly understand what that role is and how they go about it.
Like I said, Chris…good post. I know a couple of folks who probably could and should read it also.
Wow! this really reminds me of my own experience today with my clas. I have this one really difficult class. The students are having a hard time negotiating their frustrations and expressing themselves. I am frustrated as well, and one thing, I realized today when I was discussing the issue with them (via interpreter), is that they do not have conflict resolution skills, at least, they have not practiced them.
I told them, a situation is not a problem until you make it a problem. I asked them, “How can we stop the situation from being a problem? What kind of strategies do we need?”
I got off to a pretty good start, but then one of my students became very upset (she had other things going on in her life, too).
So.. but I did learn something from that experience. Next year, I am going to introduce my students to conflict resolution strategies, and take more time to discuss with them about how to confront issues they are having difficulty with.
By the way, I teach high school, so to put that in context. :)
Wow. I admit, your conflict resolution skills are better than mine. I would’ve probably just said, “Lady, you got a problem?” Then if she told me what she told you, my response would’ve been, “I don’t work for you. You work for me. If I don’t pay attention to you, or slouch in my chair, that is MY problem. Not yours. Do your job, or we’ll be having a nice chat with your boss.”
What she did to you was inappropriate, and crossed the line. People like her need to have their certification removed permanently!
Great post, as usual! ;) This situation reminded me of a time when I was student teaching hearing 1st-2nd graders. Being that the students were young, sometimes they spoke to the interpreter instead of me. All of the interpreters I worked with knew to redirect the students towards me except for one. That particular interpreter would also tie the shoes of the children when asked. *grr* I approached her on this issue and asked her to please redirect the students towards me for everything, including the times they need their shoes tied. She had the nerve to tell me that she didn’t work for me! I was like ??? Her point was that she worked for both the children and me. My point was that if I wasn’t there, she wouldn’t be there so therefore she worked for me. Then she called me a bitch! After seeing my shocked face, she explained not to worry because she was one too. I was like ??? I informed her that just because we had strong personalities, it did not mean that we had to label ourselves as bitches. That label was offensive to me. Yes, I stand up for myself and am very opinionated but there are men who are like that and no one is calling them bastards. It’s unfortunate that our society does views strong women as bitches. I’m getting off tangent here… Thanks for the conflict resolution pointers…they will definitely come in handy sometime!
Oh, before I forget, do you have any tips on how to deal with people who have a problem with you but don’t tell you outright? The only way you find out it through another person. This ANNOYS the heck out of me. A part of me wants to approach them to resolve it but the other part of me wants to just forget about it because it’s their problem, not mine, for not addressing it with me. Of course, it depends on who it is and what the relationship is (relative, coworker, friend, acquaintance, etc).
Hi Keri:
I wish I knew what to tell you. The way I see it, in the long run a person who doesn’t think enough of you to tell you directly when he/she has a problem with you isn’t a person worth bothering with.
Great post, Chris.
I agree with Virginia L. Beach; if the professor had a problem with the feet on the chairs or the snoozing, then he should/would of taken care of it. Her job was to interpret for you, that is it.
okay I have to ask….. don’t many of us try to chat with the interpreter a little? I know I do from time to time.
I know their job is just to interpret and remain impartial, but I’m sure some of us have established friendships with many of our interpreters. =)
Yeah, many of us do that, but I seriously doubt Chris was friends with that interpreter. I know I wouldn’t be!
You can tell usually right off the bat what type the interpreter is. There are cool interpreters who you will establish friendships with, and some who you just maintain a friendly professional relationship, and those who are totally into the ‘helping profession’ attitude. Seems to me that Chris’ interpreter fell in the 3rd category. Totally domineering and bossy.
A lot of people are like that… They are really presumptuous and take upon themselves to tell people what to do. I was told a hilarious story once about a deaf woman’s encounter with one of those presumptuous individuals.
A deaf person was chatting with a friend (hearing) in a grocery store. A hearing woman saw them signing then approached them, and proceeded to lecture the deaf woman, with her friend interpreting, on how wonderful cochlear implants were, and that she thought it would greatly improve the deaf woman’s quality of life.
This deaf woman didn’t know her! So after the long lecture from a complete stranger, the deaf woman had the perfect response. She just smiled and said, ‘Well thank you for the advice. Let me return the favor… I am completely positive that a nose and boob job will do wonders for you!’ :D
PB:
Sure I do. All of the time. (But DP you’re right–I never did become friends with THAT interpeter, no. PS loved the nose/boob job story above! Haha!)
You know I also do feel the need to add a little disclaimer, here. This was a LONG time ago. Seventeen years ago, to be exact. Things have changed since then. UWM has changed. Interpreting has changed. Mainstream society’s view of deafness has changed (though how deafness is viewed NOW is certainly up for debate). I haven’t had an interpreting-related conflict in well over a decade, now.
Interesting story. I have a similar story to tell, although it is not conflict resolution. I had an interpreter who was assigned to several of my college classes in a large school in upstate New York. After less than one day, I ascertained that she didn’t have the requisite interpreting skills that I needed. So I took her outside and gently told her that it wasn’t working out and for her not to come back. Then I marched over to the office responsible for providing assistive services for disabled students and informed them of what happened. It was a big deal for them because, well, where I was in college, there weren’t too many college qualified interpreters. But I managed to find one later.
It was only until much later when I recounted this story to an interpreter friend of mine that I found out that I had *fired* the first interpreter. Hmm, at that time, I hadn’t even thought about it, but, that’s right. I fired an interpreter. I was all of 18 and, uh, this was sometime around 1986. It was shocking to my friend and I find it somewhat amusing now — looking back at my 18 or 19 year old self and his, ahem, calmness and self-possession when faced with an unacceptable interpreting situation.
You do what you have to do when you’re Deaf and you need access.
And I wouldn’t have been as patient as Chris when faced with an interpreter who suddenly refused to interpret because of some personal biases, although conflict resolution is good in other situations. It was the professor’s job to maintain decorum if he or she wanted to do so, and it wasn’t the terp’s responsibility to impose morals.
I was a college student before ADA came into being. But I was fortunate to have excellent terps who did their job even though I sometimes dozed off during lectures!
But you made a point which I think needs to be emphasized: the importance of not answering to your interpreter (as an additional authority).
Had you done that, the power structure would have changed, and she would have been the colonizer/oppressor and you the victim. Or put this another way: she would have had the upper hand and not you. In addition, she also treated you like a child by trying to “train” you how to behave in a classroom, which is something colonizers/oppressors often do.
I see your experience not just as an example of conflict resolution, but an example of how some colonizers can come in guise of ‘helpful terps’ who then try to put Deaf people in their “place” by trying to train them and reminding them how grateful they should be (hey, you forgot to thank the terp! heh) for services that they are JUST SO DAMN LUCKY to get.
-Michele Ketcham
I have a story to share.
In 1984, there was a new program for the Deaf studying computer and electronics technology.
The class was about 12 Deaf students and all are motivated to become computer technicians after graduation. The school hired an interpreter and the interpreter was also a mother-like figure. She scolded a student for not paying attention or talking to another student. The instructor was puzzled because he was discussing electronic theory and he knew what the interpreter was doing does not agree with the message he was sending to the class. The interpreter stood up and went to the student and correcting the student’s behavior. The instructor was dumbfounded and asked the interpreter what is going on. The interpreter responded, “Nothing, I took care of the problem.”
After weeks of this and all of the studnets in the class finally went to the office to address a complaint. “Interpreters are supposed to relay messages and not the other way around,” said one student. The instructor was clueless of what was going on, and we have no way to let this person know, because the interpreter will not relay anything neagtive towards herself.
The people at the office realized the problem and hired an interpreting agency which is top-notch and the students started to feel comfortable asking a lot of questions because the interpreter understood what the students were signing.
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