Comments on: The Death of History? http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/ Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:42:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: A Deaf Pundit http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88478 A Deaf Pundit Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:49:03 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88478 Historical value. Like that saying goes... 'We are doomed to repeat history if we don't learn from it.' Historical value. Like that saying goes… ‘We are doomed to repeat history if we don’t learn from it.’

]]> By: Tony Nicholas http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88473 Tony Nicholas Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:28:41 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88473 The fact that cultural artefacts are being destroyed or that targets are chosen acording to cultural value, are a moot point, when there is a war being waged. What is the value of those cultural artefacts when everything else or other things are being destroyed? What good is a museum when a city [or coutnry is in ruins]? The fact that cultural artefacts are being destroyed or that targets are chosen acording to cultural value, are a moot point, when there is a war being waged.

What is the value of those cultural artefacts when everything else or other things are being destroyed?

What good is a museum when a city [or coutnry is in ruins]?

]]> By: David Evans http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88331 David Evans Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:51:55 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88331 I agree. I suspect part of it is racism-- Europe and Europeans merit more protection compared with other nations and cultures. You see this in the newspapers anytime a museum is robbed or taken advantage of. A Monet is stolen? Horrors. A pre-Columbian site is looted in Central America, or ancient cities are destroyed in the Middle East? The only reaction comes from the archaeology and history communities. I will say one thing in defense of our government, which has been otherwise derelict in its responsibilities to the culture and history of Iraq and its neighbors: none of the major sites were bombed. Someone in Defense or the government itself made sure this didn't happen. Of course, in the wake of the initial invasion, all this did was preserve these antiquities for looters. Thanks for bringing this up again, Bobby, even if it is somewhat "old news"-- it's important to be reminded of what happened. Of course, it's also hard to stretch this out into a discussion because most sane, reasonable people have the same reaction you do. I agree. I suspect part of it is racism– Europe and Europeans merit more protection compared with other nations and cultures. You see this in the newspapers anytime a museum is robbed or taken advantage of. A Monet is stolen? Horrors. A pre-Columbian site is looted in Central America, or ancient cities are destroyed in the Middle East? The only reaction comes from the archaeology and history communities.

I will say one thing in defense of our government, which has been otherwise derelict in its responsibilities to the culture and history of Iraq and its neighbors: none of the major sites were bombed. Someone in Defense or the government itself made sure this didn’t happen. Of course, in the wake of the initial invasion, all this did was preserve these antiquities for looters.

Thanks for bringing this up again, Bobby, even if it is somewhat “old news”– it’s important to be reminded of what happened. Of course, it’s also hard to stretch this out into a discussion because most sane, reasonable people have the same reaction you do.

]]> By: Bobby Cox http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88299 Bobby Cox Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:38:24 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88299 I know. Just a complete waste of our goodwill... I know. Just a complete waste of our goodwill…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88290 Anonymous Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:33:03 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88290 I always get pissed off when I get reminded of the fact that U.S. Army units were ordered to patrol the Oil Ministry instead of the museums and other cultural places. That tells you what Rumsfeld's priorities were. Contrast this behavior with the fact that the U.S. Army in the aftermath of WWII protected art and cultural sites and had units dedicated to recovering lost artwork. I always get pissed off when I get reminded of the fact that U.S. Army units were ordered to patrol the Oil Ministry instead of the museums and other cultural places. That tells you what Rumsfeld’s priorities were. Contrast this behavior with the fact that the U.S. Army in the aftermath of WWII protected art and cultural sites and had units dedicated to recovering lost artwork.

]]> By: RLM http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88280 RLM Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:26:08 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-09-17/the-death-of-history/#comment-88280 That is very old news about the Dubya-Dicky (GWB)Adminstration screwing up the post-invasion plan for Iraq! Yes, we, the Americans, are directly responsible for the most military and logistic screw-ups in the humankind history to secure Iraq's cultural and historical arficats from being pillaried and sold for private collections. That's why President Harry Truman decided not to nuke one particular Japanese city because of its historical values and chose Hirshomia and another city. Where are our outrages with the Dubya-Dicky adminstration for their failures to secure and preserve the centuries-old of humankind arficats??? The Dubya-Dicky adminstration really don't give any damn about the Middle East's cultural and historical artificats since those stuffs are not Christian-related. This adminstration would give a different treatment if artificats are signficiant to Christians. Or the Dubya-Dicky adminstration want to destroy any physical evidences about many Babeloyonian tablets to be such an inspiration for the fables of Jesus Christ as Son of God via the Babeloyonian legend, Mirtha with heavenly powers. Many Christian and Hebrew scriptures come largely from the Babeloyian legends and written stories. Robert L. Mason (RLM) That is very old news about the Dubya-Dicky (GWB)Adminstration screwing up the post-invasion plan for Iraq!

Yes, we, the Americans, are directly responsible for the most military and logistic screw-ups in the humankind history to secure Iraq’s cultural and historical arficats from being pillaried and sold for private collections.

That’s why President Harry Truman decided not to nuke one particular Japanese city because of its historical values and chose Hirshomia and another city.

Where are our outrages with the Dubya-Dicky adminstration for their failures to secure and preserve the centuries-old of humankind arficats???

The Dubya-Dicky adminstration really don’t give any damn about the Middle East’s cultural and historical artificats since those stuffs are not Christian-related. This adminstration would give a different treatment if artificats are signficiant to Christians.

Or the Dubya-Dicky adminstration want to destroy any physical evidences about many Babeloyonian tablets to be such an inspiration for the fables of Jesus Christ as Son of God via the Babeloyonian legend, Mirtha with heavenly powers.

Many Christian and Hebrew scriptures come largely from the Babeloyian legends and written stories.

Robert L. Mason (RLM)

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