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		<title>By: LadySekhmet</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84289</link>
		<dc:creator>LadySekhmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84289</guid>
		<description>I read the Prank website, and I'm sorely hurt by this. I do use the VP when I am home, but when I'm out and about, how can I use the VP? That's where ip-relay comes in. I have NEVER had any problems talking to another person on the other line using this service on sidekick. I can say however, I've had a lot of issues trying to get an apartment years ago by using online relay services. People would hang up immediately. In a small way, I can't blame them because the area that I was going to live in has a lot of foreigners, and majority of them do not speak English fluently, or know anything about relay services.  

   I can sympathize with all of you. But...where's the publicity about it? I remember years ago, I saw a billboard in my town talking about relay services and how people should not hang up. "Don't Hang Up on me!" something of the sort. What happened?
   I'm curious though, with all of this talk about it...is anything actually being done?

    Why can't we have a simple brochure, and send it out to ALL Businesses that you use? Give it to your local Pizzeria that you use all the time. When someone accepts a relay call, that person knows what's going on, then he/she can tell other people by word of mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the Prank website, and I&#8217;m sorely hurt by this. I do use the VP when I am home, but when I&#8217;m out and about, how can I use the VP? That&#8217;s where ip-relay comes in. I have NEVER had any problems talking to another person on the other line using this service on sidekick. I can say however, I&#8217;ve had a lot of issues trying to get an apartment years ago by using online relay services. People would hang up immediately. In a small way, I can&#8217;t blame them because the area that I was going to live in has a lot of foreigners, and majority of them do not speak English fluently, or know anything about relay services.  </p>
<p>   I can sympathize with all of you. But&#8230;where&#8217;s the publicity about it? I remember years ago, I saw a billboard in my town talking about relay services and how people should not hang up. &#8220;Don&#8217;t Hang Up on me!&#8221; something of the sort. What happened?<br />
   I&#8217;m curious though, with all of this talk about it&#8230;is anything actually being done?</p>
<p>    Why can&#8217;t we have a simple brochure, and send it out to ALL Businesses that you use? Give it to your local Pizzeria that you use all the time. When someone accepts a relay call, that person knows what&#8217;s going on, then he/she can tell other people by word of mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Aquafina</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84194</link>
		<dc:creator>Aquafina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84194</guid>
		<description>I think people who make prank calls via the ip-relay should have their laptops/computers confiscated AND destroyed. 

There are three restaurants in this area that I know of that are being sued for ADA violations because the restaurant refused to take orders over the relay for the deaf callers. If the restaurants don't apologize and make accommodations, they very well may lose their court cases and not only that, but also be financially punished through fines and lawyer fees which would probably put a dent to their bank account unless they have business insurance coverage.

One restaurant owner told me a few years back that he was taken for a ride on one of those IP-Relay calls. He said that someone ordered a bunch of menu items and never bothered to swing by to pick them up and pay for it. Needlessly to say, that is why he no longer accepts orders over the phone, hearing or not, because he said that it wasted the cook's time and his profits as well. 

I don't blame him one bit for that because if I was in his shoes, I'd be pissed too. Now with the VideoPhones today, it may be a bit better than IP relay because the  operator can tell whether the hearing person really is for real or not. Most hearing people trying to pull pranks wouldn't try it on the videophone but only by the computer since they can remain anonymous online than on the videophone.

Im hearing rumors that ip relay may go away in the near future because the use of videophones are taking over at a faster rate than ip-relay is being used. Honestly, to solve the problem of people pulling pranks on businesses, I'd stop the ip-relay usage and just use the videophone. 

I really like using the VP because it allows me to speak to the person on the other end without them knowing that I am deaf. This makes many of my business and personal calls a lot smoother since I never get any hangups unlike others who may not be able to speak on the phone.

On a side note: I'm hearing that the FCC may cut the funding for VRS and IP-Relay as well. That is going to cause us to slide backwards in terms of quality of the calls, increase in delays in answering the calls in turn, poor interpreting, and so on. This is going to hurt a lot of folks who work in businesses if this comes to pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people who make prank calls via the ip-relay should have their laptops/computers confiscated AND destroyed. </p>
<p>There are three restaurants in this area that I know of that are being sued for ADA violations because the restaurant refused to take orders over the relay for the deaf callers. If the restaurants don&#8217;t apologize and make accommodations, they very well may lose their court cases and not only that, but also be financially punished through fines and lawyer fees which would probably put a dent to their bank account unless they have business insurance coverage.</p>
<p>One restaurant owner told me a few years back that he was taken for a ride on one of those IP-Relay calls. He said that someone ordered a bunch of menu items and never bothered to swing by to pick them up and pay for it. Needlessly to say, that is why he no longer accepts orders over the phone, hearing or not, because he said that it wasted the cook&#8217;s time and his profits as well. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame him one bit for that because if I was in his shoes, I&#8217;d be pissed too. Now with the VideoPhones today, it may be a bit better than IP relay because the  operator can tell whether the hearing person really is for real or not. Most hearing people trying to pull pranks wouldn&#8217;t try it on the videophone but only by the computer since they can remain anonymous online than on the videophone.</p>
<p>Im hearing rumors that ip relay may go away in the near future because the use of videophones are taking over at a faster rate than ip-relay is being used. Honestly, to solve the problem of people pulling pranks on businesses, I&#8217;d stop the ip-relay usage and just use the videophone. </p>
<p>I really like using the VP because it allows me to speak to the person on the other end without them knowing that I am deaf. This makes many of my business and personal calls a lot smoother since I never get any hangups unlike others who may not be able to speak on the phone.</p>
<p>On a side note: I&#8217;m hearing that the FCC may cut the funding for VRS and IP-Relay as well. That is going to cause us to slide backwards in terms of quality of the calls, increase in delays in answering the calls in turn, poor interpreting, and so on. This is going to hurt a lot of folks who work in businesses if this comes to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: regina</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84185</link>
		<dc:creator>regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 14:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84185</guid>
		<description>TDI opposes registration for IPrelay. What do you guys think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TDI opposes registration for IPrelay. What do you guys think?</p>
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		<title>By: JustARelayOp</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84184</link>
		<dc:creator>JustARelayOp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 13:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84184</guid>
		<description>As a relay operator, I thought that I might shed some light on the subjects at hand
Pranks
These are a huge problem with us. By law we HAVE to take the calls as they come in, and can only disconnect a call if it is 100% identified as a prank call, and not just a caller and the person that they are calling being silly and crude. We catch the ones that we can, but every one of them thinks that they're doing something new and original, like making a female operator fake an orgasm or having an operator tak dirty to random girls that they call. Trust me, they disgust us as much as they do you with their abuse of the system

There's a set of regulations that we have to follow that are set by the FCC, and if we don't follow them we risk losing our funding and being shut down, so if we do something that may seem odd to you at first, it is for a reason. 

Explaining what relay is....this is a big source of frustration, because a lot of hearing out there don't know, and have never heard of relay. When you get those 3 minute delays, it's generally because the hearing person that is being called thinks that we're a telemarketer and trying to sell them something. I've had countless calls where I have been screamed at, profaned at, called everything in the book until I could get the hearing person to understand what the call was.

JT has a great thing there. We don't have to explain at the beginning that it's a relay call if you tell us not to, and those follow up instructions were GREAT.

I'll keep an eye on this thread, and will be more than happy to answer what questions that I can, but some things I can't talk about, unfortunately, or I would risk losing my job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a relay operator, I thought that I might shed some light on the subjects at hand<br />
Pranks<br />
These are a huge problem with us. By law we HAVE to take the calls as they come in, and can only disconnect a call if it is 100% identified as a prank call, and not just a caller and the person that they are calling being silly and crude. We catch the ones that we can, but every one of them thinks that they&#8217;re doing something new and original, like making a female operator fake an orgasm or having an operator tak dirty to random girls that they call. Trust me, they disgust us as much as they do you with their abuse of the system</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a set of regulations that we have to follow that are set by the FCC, and if we don&#8217;t follow them we risk losing our funding and being shut down, so if we do something that may seem odd to you at first, it is for a reason. </p>
<p>Explaining what relay is&#8230;.this is a big source of frustration, because a lot of hearing out there don&#8217;t know, and have never heard of relay. When you get those 3 minute delays, it&#8217;s generally because the hearing person that is being called thinks that we&#8217;re a telemarketer and trying to sell them something. I&#8217;ve had countless calls where I have been screamed at, profaned at, called everything in the book until I could get the hearing person to understand what the call was.</p>
<p>JT has a great thing there. We don&#8217;t have to explain at the beginning that it&#8217;s a relay call if you tell us not to, and those follow up instructions were GREAT.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep an eye on this thread, and will be more than happy to answer what questions that I can, but some things I can&#8217;t talk about, unfortunately, or I would risk losing my job.</p>
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		<title>By: regina</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84142</link>
		<dc:creator>regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 22:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84142</guid>
		<description>Yes, I noted that as well. These are probably the same kids who park in parking places designed for mothers to be, or designed for people with disabilities. The people who wouldn't give up their seat on the metro for an elderly person.... They just don't get it. sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I noted that as well. These are probably the same kids who park in parking places designed for mothers to be, or designed for people with disabilities. The people who wouldn&#8217;t give up their seat on the metro for an elderly person&#8230;. They just don&#8217;t get it. sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia L. Beach</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84107</link>
		<dc:creator>Virginia L. Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 20:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84107</guid>
		<description>What bothers me even more is the whole attitude that these kids take when someone tries to point out that their behavior is in fact stupid, immature, and exploitative. If you notice the responses to the Deaf individual who left comments expressing her disgust, these kids were quick to jump all over her case.

This kind of reminds me of Vikki's post about Welcome to the Real World, where she posted the Rules of Life. Unfortunately, I have a feeling those rules are going to be lost on these kids, who would rather make comments about "the dumb ass who can't read", how "90% of the deafs are illiterate," and that "one of the deafs favorite pastimes has been hacking..." 

Seems that instead of owning up to their own inappropriate behavior, these kids would rather point the finger elsewhere and scream at the terrible Deaf folks who would dare to criticize their right to get their kicks off by abusing a service that was never intended for their pleasure in the first place. 

Sigh...I know, I know. 

But I can't help wondering what this world is coming to. We have a young eighth grade Deaf boy who posts a vlog about how he gets treated by his hearing classmates at his mainstream school; we read about these teens who think it's fun to have phone sex over IP-Relay; just the other night I had to comfort a young Deaf pre-teen who after getting her hair styled in a cute pixie cut, got teased about how "now everyone can see those stupid hearing aids that you gotta wear." 

Were we ever that bad? I'd like to think that my parents raised me with a little more common courtesy and common sense...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me even more is the whole attitude that these kids take when someone tries to point out that their behavior is in fact stupid, immature, and exploitative. If you notice the responses to the Deaf individual who left comments expressing her disgust, these kids were quick to jump all over her case.</p>
<p>This kind of reminds me of Vikki&#8217;s post about Welcome to the Real World, where she posted the Rules of Life. Unfortunately, I have a feeling those rules are going to be lost on these kids, who would rather make comments about &#8220;the dumb ass who can&#8217;t read&#8221;, how &#8220;90% of the deafs are illiterate,&#8221; and that &#8220;one of the deafs favorite pastimes has been hacking&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Seems that instead of owning up to their own inappropriate behavior, these kids would rather point the finger elsewhere and scream at the terrible Deaf folks who would dare to criticize their right to get their kicks off by abusing a service that was never intended for their pleasure in the first place. </p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;I know, I know. </p>
<p>But I can&#8217;t help wondering what this world is coming to. We have a young eighth grade Deaf boy who posts a vlog about how he gets treated by his hearing classmates at his mainstream school; we read about these teens who think it&#8217;s fun to have phone sex over IP-Relay; just the other night I had to comfort a young Deaf pre-teen who after getting her hair styled in a cute pixie cut, got teased about how &#8220;now everyone can see those stupid hearing aids that you gotta wear.&#8221; </p>
<p>Were we ever that bad? I&#8217;d like to think that my parents raised me with a little more common courtesy and common sense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: regina</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84098</link>
		<dc:creator>regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84098</guid>
		<description>This is so sad. This WILL cause the end for IPrelay, for free relay on sidekicks etc. It's a problem on IPrelay, and with sidekicks. Stupid hearing teens using relay to prank their friends. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so sad. This WILL cause the end for IPrelay, for free relay on sidekicks etc. It&#8217;s a problem on IPrelay, and with sidekicks. Stupid hearing teens using relay to prank their friends. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary Franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84093</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilary Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 15:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84093</guid>
		<description>I never use MCI IP-relay if i can help it. i711 is my dream relay -- they always have a field for instructions prior to making the call, etc... never had a problem with  i711. My only problem is with MCI. Even SIPrelay has workd well for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never use MCI IP-relay if i can help it. i711 is my dream relay &#8212; they always have a field for instructions prior to making the call, etc&#8230; never had a problem with  i711. My only problem is with MCI. Even SIPrelay has workd well for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84043</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84043</guid>
		<description>I've heard about about the IP-Relay ordering large bulk stuff and ask to be billed.  I use VRS VCO from now on so it's my voice they hear and I just watch the relay sign what they said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard about about the IP-Relay ordering large bulk stuff and ask to be billed.  I use VRS VCO from now on so it&#8217;s my voice they hear and I just watch the relay sign what they said.</p>
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		<title>By: g l</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84020</link>
		<dc:creator>g l</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 02:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/bobby-cox/2007-05-22/easy-free-way-to-prank-calls/#comment-84020</guid>
		<description>The prank calling discussed in the link provided by Bobby are of calls originating from the Web, not to anyone's IP-Relay number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prank calling discussed in the link provided by Bobby are of calls originating from the Web, not to anyone&#8217;s IP-Relay number.</p>
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