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	<title>Comments on: Etymology of the &#8220;Crab Theory&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Deaflinux</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-38873</link>
		<dc:creator>Deaflinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pincher kinds are found in bed. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pincher kinds are found in bed. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32162</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32162</guid>
		<description>Many thanks, Allison! I truly appreciate your timely response to the JSTOR/ALADIN library system. Thanks again for being very helpful with the pinpointing of volume number and no# of "Cultural Anthropolgy". :) 

RLM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Allison! I truly appreciate your timely response to the JSTOR/ALADIN library system. Thanks again for being very helpful with the pinpointing of volume number and no# of &#8220;Cultural Anthropolgy&#8221;. :) </p>
<p>RLM</p>
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		<title>By: joseph rainmound</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32079</link>
		<dc:creator>joseph rainmound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32079</guid>
		<description>Carrie,

As I said, I haven't been attacked for speaking by Deaf people. At most they ask me if I'm hearing or deaf. I do want to share that I was attacked for my sub-par ASL skills and teased quite often. But I tended to ignore that. Obviously I was learning and sucked at the time, but I was lucky to have encouraging teachers and friends. I remember a couple of times when I bit back: aren't you learning English? They got it, and we moved on.

I asked for other people's experience and think I asked nicely - not really expecting your tone. If we don't talk about the problems, we won't find solutions, right? I do understand you obviously have pain from your past. So do I. I encourage you to share you feelings in forums like this one. They are important. Constructive solutions are also important.

What I wonder, now, is how we can quantify that comment by the deaf person. What does it mean for them to "accept your Deafness?" Why could they not accept you as a person? Did they feel you were threatening to them? Are there little secret signals that you might not have picked up on which that person did? Or maybe they were just being b*t*hy? It sounds a little like the latter. Or perhaps they had problems with their own parents, and were projecting their experiences on you.

But I would really love to hear more about people who've experienced audism from the Deaf community. (I use the word both ways, just like racism can be used both ways.) It teaches me a lot about where our insecurities lie, and how we can fight against them. If I had been in your shoes, I would have said, "Fine, I agree with you, why don't you start an organization to educate parents about Deaf people and make sure your side is represented?" Too often I see Deaf people complaining, and taking no action to resolve the situation. That's crab theory, too, you know.

My own parents had no idea what to do with me. I've written on my website about how doctors told them they would make me retarded, etc. by using sign language. They did the best they could with the info they have. It sounds like the individual you spoke to has a lot of inner conflicts themselves. We all have to remember that all groups undergo trauma thanks to discrimination at points in their lives. The feelings themselves are not important; it is when we refuse to take proactive decisions to change things that we truly fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie,</p>
<p>As I said, I haven&#8217;t been attacked for speaking by Deaf people. At most they ask me if I&#8217;m hearing or deaf. I do want to share that I was attacked for my sub-par ASL skills and teased quite often. But I tended to ignore that. Obviously I was learning and sucked at the time, but I was lucky to have encouraging teachers and friends. I remember a couple of times when I bit back: aren&#8217;t you learning English? They got it, and we moved on.</p>
<p>I asked for other people&#8217;s experience and think I asked nicely - not really expecting your tone. If we don&#8217;t talk about the problems, we won&#8217;t find solutions, right? I do understand you obviously have pain from your past. So do I. I encourage you to share you feelings in forums like this one. They are important. Constructive solutions are also important.</p>
<p>What I wonder, now, is how we can quantify that comment by the deaf person. What does it mean for them to &#8220;accept your Deafness?&#8221; Why could they not accept you as a person? Did they feel you were threatening to them? Are there little secret signals that you might not have picked up on which that person did? Or maybe they were just being b*t*hy? It sounds a little like the latter. Or perhaps they had problems with their own parents, and were projecting their experiences on you.</p>
<p>But I would really love to hear more about people who&#8217;ve experienced audism from the Deaf community. (I use the word both ways, just like racism can be used both ways.) It teaches me a lot about where our insecurities lie, and how we can fight against them. If I had been in your shoes, I would have said, &#8220;Fine, I agree with you, why don&#8217;t you start an organization to educate parents about Deaf people and make sure your side is represented?&#8221; Too often I see Deaf people complaining, and taking no action to resolve the situation. That&#8217;s crab theory, too, you know.</p>
<p>My own parents had no idea what to do with me. I&#8217;ve written on my website about how doctors told them they would make me retarded, etc. by using sign language. They did the best they could with the info they have. It sounds like the individual you spoke to has a lot of inner conflicts themselves. We all have to remember that all groups undergo trauma thanks to discrimination at points in their lives. The feelings themselves are not important; it is when we refuse to take proactive decisions to change things that we truly fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison Kaftan</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32078</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison Kaftan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32078</guid>
		<description>Unfortunately, the article is only accessible to those who have access to the JSTOR database.  I’m a student at GWU and was able to get in with my student ID.  If you have access to it via other means, here’s the citation: Rosenthal, Judy. “The Signifying Crab.” Cultural Anthropology, Vol. 10, No. 4 (Nov., 1995), pp. 581-586.  You should also be able to get to it by going to a library that subscribes to this journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the article is only accessible to those who have access to the JSTOR database.  I’m a student at GWU and was able to get in with my student ID.  If you have access to it via other means, here’s the citation: Rosenthal, Judy. “The Signifying Crab.” Cultural Anthropology, Vol. 10, No. 4 (Nov., 1995), pp. 581-586.  You should also be able to get to it by going to a library that subscribes to this journal.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison Kaftan</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32077</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison Kaftan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32077</guid>
		<description>She laughs derisively, meaning she thinks the slave is stupid for not thinking the same way she does.  So I read it as she is judging the slave as below her, even though they are both the same.  This kind of laughter, sadly, is not funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She laughs derisively, meaning she thinks the slave is stupid for not thinking the same way she does.  So I read it as she is judging the slave as below her, even though they are both the same.  This kind of laughter, sadly, is not funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison Kaftan</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32074</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison Kaftan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-32074</guid>
		<description>If that's true, then that's in direct contradiction of what deafhood presenters are saying: deafhood is actually the process of self-actualization.  It is in no way a weapon - there are many different deafhoods, all equally valid.  It is also not in any way analogous with what most people perceive as deaf culture.

Ella Mae Lentz says in the joey baer blog Shane and "moi" link to that the solution is to topple over the barrel.  I like that reframing.  Kind of makes your idea of allowing people to explore outside the barrel moot.  What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s true, then that&#8217;s in direct contradiction of what deafhood presenters are saying: deafhood is actually the process of self-actualization.  It is in no way a weapon - there are many different deafhoods, all equally valid.  It is also not in any way analogous with what most people perceive as deaf culture.</p>
<p>Ella Mae Lentz says in the joey baer blog Shane and &#8220;moi&#8221; link to that the solution is to topple over the barrel.  I like that reframing.  Kind of makes your idea of allowing people to explore outside the barrel moot.  What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Incredulous Eyes</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-31767</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Incredulous Eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 06:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-31767</guid>
		<description>Are you arguing that no deaf person should use oral speech for social communication outside of the said campus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you arguing that no deaf person should use oral speech for social communication outside of the said campus?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-31766</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 06:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-31766</guid>
		<description>Oh I'm not saying that "deaf culture" inherently limits or punishes individuals who don't "fit."  I AM saying that "deaf culture" and "deafhood" are being wielded as powerful weapons to keep individuals in line.  They're so powerful because instead of questioning the premises of deafhood and deaf culture, individuals respond by enthusiastically trying to prove that they're in agreement.  Just look at the effect that's had on the black community.  Individuals hide or sabotage their good grades and avoid using standard English so they won't be accused of "acting white."  Certainly there are black leaders who've fought that attitude, but overall it's something that the black and deaf communities have in common.  That's why the origins of crab theory are shared by both groups, because it rings so true.  Yes, the hearing/white world originally "put them in the barrel."  We can all stay in the barrel and congratulate ourselves because "they" are to blame, or we can move past it and stop punishing those ready to explore outside the barrel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I&#8217;m not saying that &#8220;deaf culture&#8221; inherently limits or punishes individuals who don&#8217;t &#8220;fit.&#8221;  I AM saying that &#8220;deaf culture&#8221; and &#8220;deafhood&#8221; are being wielded as powerful weapons to keep individuals in line.  They&#8217;re so powerful because instead of questioning the premises of deafhood and deaf culture, individuals respond by enthusiastically trying to prove that they&#8217;re in agreement.  Just look at the effect that&#8217;s had on the black community.  Individuals hide or sabotage their good grades and avoid using standard English so they won&#8217;t be accused of &#8220;acting white.&#8221;  Certainly there are black leaders who&#8217;ve fought that attitude, but overall it&#8217;s something that the black and deaf communities have in common.  That&#8217;s why the origins of crab theory are shared by both groups, because it rings so true.  Yes, the hearing/white world originally &#8220;put them in the barrel.&#8221;  We can all stay in the barrel and congratulate ourselves because &#8220;they&#8221; are to blame, or we can move past it and stop punishing those ready to explore outside the barrel.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer K</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-31762</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 06:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-31762</guid>
		<description>Yes, I've read that. Interesting analysis by someone who I suppose is hearing and not affiliated in any way with deafness. 

I don't know how many people are out there like me, but I've got a sinking feeling that the protest will turn out in the end to have a deeper tie to the Deaf/ASL-only sect's agenda than is being admitted. The way the search and outcome of the person to replace Dr. Fernandes unfolds will be telling. 

While I supported change in my beloved Gallaudet, and saw the protests as an amazing way to institute the seeds for change, I worry that something bigger, more exclusive in nature, has been unleashed. I don't even know how to describe it. It's just a gut feeling from reading all the various blogs, comments, editorials, open letters, and the like. A gut feeling that there's an element to the protests and their outcome that no one is willing to admit to. 

I see Gallaudet as a UNIVERISTY where I can get a visual education. It is why I chose to attend it, why I, knowing only a wee bit o' SEE, scrambled to learn ASL (resulting in PSE, I suppose) during my first year submerged in class with strong ASLers and without an interpreter, why I never used my voice  on campus without signing at the same time, and why I pushed for higher academic standards in admissions and stronger classwork from professors, despite knowing most deaf struggle with English. I didn't see Gallaudet as a cultural center alone...just a place I could get the best taste of it while pursuing my education. I actually wish the Deaf clubs would re-emerge across the country, giving Deaf culture a place to flourish while leaving Gallaudet alone to do its job: educating deaf and hard of hearing people! I cringe when hearing people write that Gally is just a big ol' federally funded Deaf club, but I also fear they may have been predicting what Gallaudet could become if the focus is shifted from education to cultural preservation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve read that. Interesting analysis by someone who I suppose is hearing and not affiliated in any way with deafness. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how many people are out there like me, but I&#8217;ve got a sinking feeling that the protest will turn out in the end to have a deeper tie to the Deaf/ASL-only sect&#8217;s agenda than is being admitted. The way the search and outcome of the person to replace Dr. Fernandes unfolds will be telling. </p>
<p>While I supported change in my beloved Gallaudet, and saw the protests as an amazing way to institute the seeds for change, I worry that something bigger, more exclusive in nature, has been unleashed. I don&#8217;t even know how to describe it. It&#8217;s just a gut feeling from reading all the various blogs, comments, editorials, open letters, and the like. A gut feeling that there&#8217;s an element to the protests and their outcome that no one is willing to admit to. </p>
<p>I see Gallaudet as a UNIVERISTY where I can get a visual education. It is why I chose to attend it, why I, knowing only a wee bit o&#8217; SEE, scrambled to learn ASL (resulting in PSE, I suppose) during my first year submerged in class with strong ASLers and without an interpreter, why I never used my voice  on campus without signing at the same time, and why I pushed for higher academic standards in admissions and stronger classwork from professors, despite knowing most deaf struggle with English. I didn&#8217;t see Gallaudet as a cultural center alone&#8230;just a place I could get the best taste of it while pursuing my education. I actually wish the Deaf clubs would re-emerge across the country, giving Deaf culture a place to flourish while leaving Gallaudet alone to do its job: educating deaf and hard of hearing people! I cringe when hearing people write that Gally is just a big ol&#8217; federally funded Deaf club, but I also fear they may have been predicting what Gallaudet could become if the focus is shifted from education to cultural preservation!</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisH</title>
		<link>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-31752</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-11-02/etymology-of-the-crab-theory/#comment-31752</guid>
		<description>Jennifer K

Gallaudet and the perils of culture

http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20061101-091540-9958r.htm</description>
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<p>Gallaudet and the perils of culture</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20061101-091540-9958r.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.washtimes.com/comme.....-9958r.htm</a></p>
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