Preparing for the long commute home, I pull out a copy of Azar Nafisi’s Reading Lolita in Tehran and gazed at the cover. On it, two women wearing scarves over their hair huddle together. Presumably they, like the book’s subject matter and its author, are Iranian women. Before I can start reading, I am interrupted.
“Is that a Middle Eastern book,” asks my Saudi Arabian neighbor from across the bus aisle. I have seen this man before and usually try to avoid him. He likes to attempt discussing things with me I find irrelevant and places me on some sort of pedestal because I am, as he describes me, an educated American woman who can write. His opinion, which he reminds me of each time he sees me, and his straightforward yet foreign manner make me uncomfortable.
I am about halfway through the book, so I know it’s not exactly a Middle Eastern book in the sense he’s asking me. Instead, the author has imbued it with strong feminist undertones and commentary on totalitarian regimes and the malleability of human nature within these regimes. Although it’s marketed as — and is — a discussion of Iranian women’s reaction to western literature, the personal reflections of the author and the easily relatable themes make it so much more.
While reading, I often find myself asking why Ms. Nafisi (or is it Doctor?) seems to be the only one expressing her “anti-revolutionary, pro-Western” opinion in 1970’s Iran to readers, even as she reminds us that it is illegal and dangerously risky for others to make such thoughts overt. After all, in one chapter, she tells us of a man who is executed for smoking an American brand of cigarettes.
But my fellow bus rider, I suspect, is one on whom these explanations would be lost. So, instead, I just tell him, “yes, it’s based in Iran.”
“Oh, Iran.” This is somehow hugely significant to him. It won’t be long before I find out why. He continues: “You have to remember that that book doesn’t really describe what most Muslim life is like.”
I think he can tell that I am completely lost. He begins asking me a series of questions.
How many countries claim membership in the United Nations? I guess 200. He says, yes, close, 189. How many muslim countries do I think there are? I guess 50. He is thrilled once again. This is close enough, he tells me. There are 60. How many of those are considered Arab? I haven’t a clue how exactly to define Arab, and I ask him, but he doesn’t help. So I guess anyway: 20. Close again, he is delighted to tell me. Sixteen, according to him, is the correct number.
All the while he is asking me these questions, I feel like someone on Jay Leno’s “jaywalking” segments, just waiting to be busted giving a dumb answer to an elementary question. I sense in his demeanor that he fully expects me not to know, and he truly is excited to find that I am not too far off in my guesses. As someone he has told he likes to talk to because I’m educated, I feel ridiculous having this conversation. Later, I’ll realize it’s because I’m ashamed I don’t know more about his part of the world, and he knows so much about mine.
But back to his Middle Eastern lesson: There are two major sects of Islam, he explains.
Yes, I have heard of them in the news. One of them is Shia, and the other is Sunni. Which is which, I haven’t a clue.
This, again, is a disgrace he is happy to correct. 95% of the world, he says, including himself, belongs to the Sunni sect. The rest follow the Shi’ite verson of Islam (which he briefly explains, is due to difference of opinion about which prophet to follow. I want to ask more, but I sense he’s not interested in a theology question).
Iran, as it happens, mostly subscribes to the Shia sect, he says. So, he concludes, while I’m reading Reading Lolita in Tehran, I should remember that the form of Islam described within its pages, in fact, describes a minority of the Muslim world and I should not take it as representative.
I find this conversation so unreal and fascinating that I start to ask him more about his views of current events. He is strongly opinionated, but I am surprised to find how appealing his opinions are.
“You know the bombing plot on the British airplanes,” he asks.
“Yes, I’ve heard.”
He begins. He thinks our country’s foreign policy needs to change. He doesn’t think the American government recognizes the amount of oppression and miscommunication and anger and propaganda and injustice that it takes for a human being to reach that level of militantism. He doesn’t think we realize just how much of a part we play in causing that situation in this world.
He refers also to the Israel-Hizbollah conflict in this manner. It is horrible, yes, and we need to find a resolution, but because of the way we play politics in this modern world, we will never understand and get to the root of conflict. There are years of history and years of conflict at work here.
He makes me want to laugh at times. The way he talks is melodramatic.
“Imagine if you were happily riding your bike one day. And then a man came and stole your bike. You are upset and when you go to the police station you find that because the police are friends with the man who stole your bike, they will do nothing to get your bike back.”
That is how he describes the relationship of Israel and Palestine. He describes Israel as a gift of a guilty conscience to the refugees of WWII and the Holocaust. The gift was made of Palestinian lands.
A bit elementary, yes, but frighteningly effective.
He has other ways of illustrating his perspective. “Imagine a kid hits another kid on the playground. That other kid hits you in retaliation for the first punch, and the adults on the playground do nothing in your defense.” Hizbollah is the first kid, and I am the innocent Lebanese.
The quizzes of what he is delighted to find is an only slightly ignorant American (although I am thoroughly humbled by how much I don’t know and cannot answer) continue.
Who do I think is responsible for US foreign policy?
Condoleeza, I say.
Yes, yes, very good, excellent! I’m glad to see you know that. But who else has a strong influence on our foreign policy? Who ignores our domestic but is always there pushing our foreign policy?
I shrug.
The Jews, he answers. That’s why we do nothing to stop Israel, because our country is controlled by the Jews.
I am seriously taken back by this. These are racist remarks, and they are tainting a conversation I was enjoying up to this point.
But as he continues, he says things that make it clear he does not hold Jewish people responsible and is instead the victim of a less than native proficiency in the English language (something I can’t begrudge him, a speaker of four languages). He is referring, instead, to pro-Israel lobbyists at certain levels in our government. He mentions his degree in government as well, noting he has studied this phenomenon. I have met many people who are not Jewish and yet are pro-Israel and think our government should be as well. This relaxes me enough to keep listening to his opinions.
He knows I have a young daughter, and he uses her in one example. “You and your daughter go home one day. You have had a long day, and so has your husband. Neither of you feels like cooking dinner, so you order pizza. The pizza arrives, and you ask the delivery person how much it is. He gives you a receipt, and on the receipt you see 5% sales tax has been added on. You pay the entire cost, and go on with your evening with your family at home. Meanwhile, that 5% goes to our government. Your hard-earned money is paying to kill grandmothers and little children in Lebanon because our government is friends with Israel.”
I have to catch my train, but before we part, he has some words for me. “I respect you. You listen. You are educated. You are smart. You are calm. I respect you.”
I blush, and thank him for being patient with me. But he’s not finished. As I’m about to rush off into the depths of Union Station, he waves and signs one last thing with the passion in his eyes clear: “The book! Remember, Shia Muslim is different than 95% of the Islamic World! What you’re reading is not like the rest of us!”
Duly noted, I think with a smile.
I am only with this man for 20 minutes, but I have goosebumps on my arm for the duration. It has been a few days now since that conversation passed, and I’m still thinking about it, obviously.
I know enough not to let one man sway me. I know enough not to let parables of playground squabbles and oversimplified analogies of financial responsibilities turn me into a raging politic. I’ve read Hobbes’ Leviathan, which I think should be required reading for every politician, every leader, every philosopher, and which reads in part:
It is true that certain living creatures, as bees and ants, live sociably one with another (which are therefore by Aristotle numbered amongst political creatures), and yet have no other direction than their particular judgements and appetites; nor speech, whereby one of them can signify to another what he thinks expedient for the common benefit: and therefore some man may perhaps desire to know why mankind cannot do the same.
I must find this man again one day. I must ask him more questions.
In the course of our conversation, he told me he liked President Bush, a man I still cannot fathom has been elected leader of our country. He cited Bush’s friendship with Saudi Arabia as reason for his moral support, and I’d like to grill him about this.
I’d also like to ask him why he thought American foreign policy was the one thing, the only thing, that we needed to focus on and change.
I’d like to ask him why he didn’t think the environment (now, that’s a global issue) was as important, or issues like world health (AIDS! Come on!) or poverty.
But more than anything else, I’d like to thank him for humbling me. He may not have convinced me of anything, but then again I see now that I really didn’t have a strong informed opinion to begin with. I’d like to thank him for talking to me, for showing me the world through a different lens.
I’d like to thank him for showing me that more than anything else I know, after all my efforts to be “educated,” I really know nothing.
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Very interesting…are there any books by female sunni authors that you could compare this current one to? While you and I both know that one person does not a whole group represent, the similarities and differences in experiences can be very telling and, to a point, reflect the collective.
As for the “relationship” with Saudi Arabia, I think any politician would have to recognize the importance of good relations, simply for business, not to punish (or ignore) any human rights violations, because of their largest export — oil. We are, as a nation and culture, so dependent on gasoline. Especially with the alaskan oil fields being cut way down for at least a year, we need to look abroad to supply our own demand.
Hmmm. Thanks for the late-night mental activity. :)
Duh! Could it be… we are the bad guys? Could it be… the arab-muslim world has been sh*t on over and over? could it be… one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist? could it be… that in 1953, the United States and United Kingdom overthrew the democratically elected Government of Iran - for money?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax
Allison,
Here are some points that will help you gain the “strong informed opinion” that you want and some questions to ask.
Read this well-written and researched article about the “Jews that control our country” according to your friend in The Washington Post Magazine at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01627.html
From this article, we can clearly see that not all “Jews” agree with each other. We can also infer that people such as your friend conclude that since one or more “Jews” were involved with certain unpopular decisions, he and his friends can proclaim with a sweeping generalization that all “Jews” control the government.
Your friend likes President Bush, but absolves him of the decision to go to war with Iraq and to topple the government of Afghanistan. Following that line of reasoning, people like Allison Kaftan and all Americans are not at fault for the conflict with Islamic Fundamentalists, it is the fault of all “Jews”.
Ask your friend why Americans, in general including President Bush, are not at fault while only the Jews are?
That “Jews” ignore domestic policy is another sweeping generalization. No doubt there are Jewish people involved in American politics, however it is a right of every American to decide whether or not they want to be involved in politics. The exercise of basic human rights is not something that our country, or its citizens, should oppress.
In contrast, Saudi Arabia (your friend’s country) commits human rights violations such as barring women from participating in elections and repress the freedom of expression and religion, to name a few. For more information go to the Amnesty International report at:
http://web.amnesty.org/report2006/sau-summary-eng
Ask your friend why it is wrong for Jewish people to be involved in their government as American citizens while it is okay for his country to supress the rights of women to vote and supress the freedom of expression and religion?
On the other hand, when we view the Israel Amnesty International Report at http://web.amnesty.org/report2006/isr-summary-eng, we see many acts of self-defense with the unfortunate civilian deaths and rogue factions of the Israeli population (which we have also seen Americans guilty of as they pursue terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq and other countries as well as rogue solidors such as Steven Green). Harming or killing of innocent victims is an unavoidable, and unfortunate, consequence of war.
While Jewish people exercise their right as American citizens and become involved in the political process, why do we avoid confronting Iran and Syria for supplying the deadly rockets to Hizbullah with the sole intention of maximizing death, damage, and injuries to a country’s civilian population?
It is probably not because Iranian- and Syrian-Americans are involved in our government as American citizens but rather because Americans like us do not want to pay several more dollars at the fuel pump. If faced with a choice between supporting group A who wants to simply defend themselves and exercise their right to freedom of expression and religion or group B who wants to see the complete extermination of group A and hold a valuable commodity as leverage, which would you choose?
Ask your friend why Muslim and Arab countries do not express outrage over the support for terrorism by some Arab and Muslim countries? Are they covertly supporting those efforts, turning a blind eye or simply too afraid and intimidated to do anything about it?
This was an interesting reasoning by your friend in the following exerpt:
“He thinks our country’s foreign policy needs to change. He doesn’t think the American government recognizes the amount of oppression and miscommunication and anger and propaganda and injustice that it takes for a human being to reach that level of militantism. He doesn’t think we realize just how much of a part we play in causing that situation in this world.”
Here he blames Americans (or perhaps the “Jews” because according to his reasoning, because “Jews” control the American government) for the problems of “oppression, miscommunication, anger, propoganda, and injustice”. It has been acknowledged time and time again that the strategy of dictatorships in countries fueled by Islamic Fundamentalism oppress, miscommunicate, anger, engage in propoganda, and commit acts of injustice (and human rights violations) against their country’s populations. Those in power are aware of their actions and they redirect the backlash for their actions by pointing to the “Jews” and America as the cause of many, if not all, of the problems suffered by their country’s population, thus their hatred for all “Jews” and “Americans”.
Ask your friend why leaders of these countries redirect the blame to the “Jews” and America for their nation’s problems when the leaders of these countries could be the reason for these problems?
Ask your friend these questions the next time you see him and you may not be so humbled by his opinions.
Looks like this Lebanese psychologist has a more balanced view of the facts than this Saudi guy. check out:
http://switch5.castup.net/fram.....mp;ak=null
JT’s husband, read this:
http://extra-extra.blogspot.co.....paign.html
and this:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0813.html
Alison, yes, there are more to learn:
This is written in 1947.
http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/kabd_eng.html
http://www.noamchomsky.info
In addition:
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20060807.htm
Outsider, many thanks for sharing the link to Chomsky’s interview, an excerpt below is what I’ve had been discussing the past few weeks here at deafdc.
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http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20060807.htm
What steps do you recommend for the current hostilities to be brought to an end and a lasting peace established?
NC: The basic steps are well understood: a cease-fire and exchange of prisoners; withdrawal of occupying forces; continuation of the “national dialogue” within Lebanon; and acceptance of the very broad international consensus on a two-state settlement for Israel-Palestine, which has been unilaterally blocked by the United States and Israel for thirty years. There is, as always, much more to say, but those are the essentials.
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Allison, was that Saudi man deaf or hearing? Not that it’s relevant to the topic of your blog, but it’s always nice to know.
Im curious also since she mentioned at the end he “signed” ???
He has to be a deaf guy after all. I don’t think they would have time to communicate in writing on their way to Union Station. Thanks for your post. That’s interesting, indeed. I’m still trying to understand why Middle East/arabs HATE Jews and Americans. There are always so many different stories about the conflict to the point where I couldn’t grasp the whole thing.
Many people tend to confuse Arab nationality with the entire Middle East.
Iran is not really considered as an Arab country, Iraq, too.
Not all the Middle East countries part of the Arab nationality. Iran see herself as a Persian country, not Arab.
Robert L. Mason (RLM)
Actually, that’s a strong issue within the community. I once had a friend from Iran, and so many of her friends felt strongly about the distinction between Persian and Arabian. They were only Persians, period. But others, like this author, feel otherwise:
http://www.persianmirror.com/c.....hirazi.cfm
The difference between arabians and persians….
http://www.iranchamber.com/peo.....groups.php
You could check out the http://www.accesscommunity.org (You have to type out the entire web address all by yourself). I am not whiz at web stuff.
I have to correct myself that Iraq is NOT the Arab country. She is! I am kinda perplexed about Iraq being an Arab country.
The majority of Iraqi citizens do not speak Arab or come down from the Arab hertiage.
Robert L. Mason (RLM)
Wonderful post! I read “Reading Lolita in Tehran” some time ago, and found it inspirating. Fortunately, I’m from Egypt and it’s quite conservative compared to Iran.
I have a quote from Ariel Sharon I’d like to contribute to:
“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about the American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio
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