Comments on: Leave Tara McAvoy Alone http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:34:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: MiiSs PiiNk StAr http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-50881 MiiSs PiiNk StAr Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:53:55 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-50881 Im totally definitely understand that's what happened to my beloved friend Tara Mcavoy. I cant believe that what happened. I was fiqure it out by meself why did she get closer to train track? She should knew better it's very dangerous and may killed her. So, it's toolate. Im really missed her for right now =[ By the way, we miss you, Tara. Im totally definitely understand that’s what happened to my beloved friend Tara Mcavoy. I cant believe that what happened. I was fiqure it out by meself why did she get closer to train track? She should knew better it’s very dangerous and may killed her. So, it’s toolate. Im really missed her for right now =[

By the way, we miss you, Tara.

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]]> By: Danielle Nemec http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-633 Danielle Nemec Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:02:04 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-633 I think it is not true that you said "Tara died because of her deafness". It is depending with her serious condition. I agree with you that NAD and everyone should educate young deaf people before they are out of high school. I think Tara made a mistake thing that she didn't alert when the train was coming to her. I think it is not fair for deaf people who are mute when they are an alert. In my belief, deaf people should be an alert at all the time. I notice a viberation will make them feeling harmful if road and sidewalk are viberating. I don't know if it can harm them while they walk on a railroad without a road like Tara didn't feel viberated... I think Tara had a serious condition. That is not a reason she is deaf. It is depending how much she had a serious condition. I hope NAD and any residental schools should educate young deaf students how to be safety while they use a pager. I am with you. I think it is not true that you said “Tara died because of her deafness”. It is depending with her serious condition. I agree with you that NAD and everyone should educate young deaf people before they are out of high school. I think Tara made a mistake thing that she didn’t alert when the train was coming to her. I think it is not fair for deaf people who are mute when they are an alert. In my belief, deaf people should be an alert at all the time. I notice a viberation will make them feeling harmful if road and sidewalk are viberating. I don’t know if it can harm them while they walk on a railroad without a road like Tara didn’t feel viberated… I think Tara had a serious condition. That is not a reason she is deaf. It is depending how much she had a serious condition. I hope NAD and any residental schools should educate young deaf students how to be safety while they use a pager. I am with you.

]]> By: Christian http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-622 Christian Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:58:02 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-622 Well.. I was reading the comments on Allison's blog on Tara McAvoy. There's several things that I would like to point out.. One, I dont believe in making this incidient as a crusade for deafies only.. I almost get the impression that deaf people are liable to get themselves killed rather than hearing people so therefore we need to help deafies. I disagree. Im all for educating younger kids/teens about the dangers of crossing trains and all that.. I dont know how that would work out because its fairly simple, keep your eyes open, dont take risks, and maybe dont walk across tracks like that.. Me being from NYC, I dont get it.. maybe its a rural thing, where tracks are laid down and no safety signs around the area? i dont know.. And the person who is credited for trying to attempt a national wide campaign.. Hes deaf or hearing? who the hell decided that its a deaf issue? Like some of you said, maybe her family and others want to grieve this way but I can't help but feel that setting up a campaign like that directed to deafies makes the deaf community weaker.. Kids will be kids.. U can have a brief lecture about the dangers of crossing train tracks in the schools and the parents need to reinforce the concept of safety and the dangers of crossing the tracks.. I dont know. the call for the national-wide campaign seems overblown.. It was an unfortunte, terrible incident.. but I think there are more issues that should be focused on like improving deaf education, improving our schools.. Where's the campaign for that? Well.. I was reading the comments on Allison’s blog on Tara McAvoy. There’s several things that I would like to point out.. One, I dont believe in making this incidient as a crusade for deafies only.. I almost get the impression that deaf people are liable to get themselves killed rather than hearing people so therefore we need to help deafies. I disagree. Im all for educating younger kids/teens about the dangers of crossing trains and all that.. I dont know how that would work out because its fairly simple, keep your eyes open, dont take risks, and maybe dont walk across tracks like that.. Me being from NYC, I dont get it.. maybe its a rural thing, where tracks are laid down and no safety signs around the area? i dont know.. And the person who is credited for trying to attempt a national wide campaign.. Hes deaf or hearing? who the hell decided that its a deaf issue? Like some of you said, maybe her family and others want to grieve this way but I can’t help but feel that setting up a campaign like that directed to deafies makes the deaf community weaker.. Kids will be kids.. U can have a brief lecture about the dangers of crossing train tracks in the schools and the parents need to reinforce the concept of safety and the dangers of crossing the tracks.. I dont know. the call for the national-wide campaign seems overblown.. It was an unfortunte, terrible incident.. but I think there are more issues that should be focused on like improving deaf education, improving our schools.. Where’s the campaign for that?

]]> By: jbh http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-542 jbh Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:50:04 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-542 ouch, not so sure I'd swallow that comment. But I do have to say that some brain cells where misplaced or backfired at that specific moment. =) ouch, not so sure I’d swallow that comment. But I do have to say that some brain cells where misplaced or backfired at that specific moment. =)

]]> By: Dan http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-533 Dan Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:21:51 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-533 Another darwin award winner? well, good riddance to this loser. One less deaf person to suck the social security system dry. Another darwin award winner? well, good riddance to this loser. One less deaf person to suck the social security system dry.

]]> By: Julie T. http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-520 Julie T. Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:42:44 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-520 I think Allison's gripe was that they (especially the deaf community) made this into a *deaf* issue, when really hearing people also could have- and already have- made exactly the same colossal mistake. I think Allison’s gripe was that they (especially the deaf community) made this into a *deaf* issue, when really hearing people also could have- and already have- made exactly the same colossal mistake.

]]> By: Christine http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-517 Christine Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:17:11 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-517 whoooooops. Dead = Deaf. Definitely not an intended pun. whoooooops.
Dead = Deaf. Definitely not an intended pun.

]]> By: Christine http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-516 Christine Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:13:57 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-516 The second anonymous quote - that's me. I'm not ashamed to say that I wrote the blog in which Allison speaks of, because I still stand by my words. JT made a very good poibt, which only reindorced my post even more. I am not putting the Dead community under the micriscope, rather, encouraging everyone to put their carelessness with handheld technology into perspective and how it could cost their life. I have read countless newspaper articles about families of 6 getting killed in vans because the incoming car driver fumbled for his/her cell phone. Hearing drivers are always spotlighted, but none that have involved the Deaf nor deeply impacted us where reasoning is concerned. When I sat down today, thinking how and where I usually toil away on my pager, I remember myself doing it on crosswalks, stairs, etc - when I am Deaf-Blind myself. Crazy, indeed. But learning from Tara's tragedy, I have resolved never to focus on my pager and tell my friends to put theirs away. I mentioned NAD in my post mainly because the Deaf communities across need to hear from the organization itself, which holds many culturally Deaf communities together and alerts them of issues .... issues such as careless pager usage because I and you and everyone else knows that we all misuse our pagers in the most ignorant and careless ways. The NAD is our role model, they make us think about the issues we face every day. We all need to hear from them that it is not okay to drive with pagers, to walk into a dangerous environment with pagers, and being more considerate with our lives. Deaf people think that hazards of cell phones apply only to Hearing people and since we all use pagers, we are excluded from the cell-phone-toting people. Like JT said, there are ways to turn grief into a crusade, to make a difference. I know the Deaf community needs to reinforce each other on this oft-ignored issue of misusing pagers... Tara McAvoy isn't a poster girl, mind you, but she can teach many of us lessons we'll never forget. I have her tragedy to learn from, because it has smacked me upright on the head regarding my use of pagers. Okay, I think I've made my point. Good blog, madame Kaftan. The second anonymous quote - that’s me. I’m not ashamed to say that I wrote the blog in which Allison speaks of, because I still stand by my words. JT made a very good poibt, which only reindorced my post even more. I am not putting the Dead community under the micriscope, rather, encouraging everyone to put their carelessness with handheld technology into perspective and how it could cost their life. I have read countless newspaper articles about families of 6 getting killed in vans because the incoming car driver fumbled for his/her cell phone. Hearing drivers are always spotlighted, but none that have involved the Deaf nor deeply impacted us where reasoning is concerned. When I sat down today, thinking how and where I usually toil away on my pager, I remember myself doing it on crosswalks, stairs, etc - when I am Deaf-Blind myself. Crazy, indeed. But learning from Tara’s tragedy, I have resolved never to focus on my pager and tell my friends to put theirs away.
I mentioned NAD in my post mainly because the Deaf communities across need to hear from the organization itself, which holds many culturally Deaf communities together and alerts them of issues …. issues such as careless pager usage because I and you and everyone else knows that we all misuse our pagers in the most ignorant and careless ways. The NAD is our role model, they make us think about the issues we face every day. We all need to hear from them that it is not okay to drive with pagers, to walk into a dangerous environment with pagers, and being more considerate with our lives. Deaf people think that hazards of cell phones apply only to Hearing people and since we all use pagers, we are excluded from the cell-phone-toting people.
Like JT said, there are ways to turn grief into a crusade, to make a difference. I know the Deaf community needs to reinforce each other on this oft-ignored issue of misusing pagers… Tara McAvoy isn’t a poster girl, mind you, but she can teach many of us lessons we’ll never forget. I have her tragedy to learn from, because it has smacked me upright on the head regarding my use of pagers. Okay, I think I’ve made my point. Good blog, madame Kaftan.

]]> By: Tara http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-515 Tara Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:10:32 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/allison-kaftan/2006-03-16/leave-tara-mcavoy-alone/#comment-515 I'm not quite sure I understand where you're coming from. Sad but true to say, people often don't recognize a problem until a tragedy occurs. Yes, maybe Tara McAvoy's getting a lot of attention and some of it not good or skewed - i.e. media sensationalism. But that skewed attention will fade away sooner rather than later, and it's her legacy to the world that remains to be determined. Like I said in my blog, I knew Tara from YLC. She was a bright girl who had a lot of potential as a leader. Just because she died, does that mean her capacity for leadership has to die with her? I don't necessarily think that a statistic is all she is to us now, after her death, and I truly do hope that people who knew her and know her passions will be able to carry on her spirit in many different ways. But if for some of us, her death can inspire us to be more conscientious about safety issues and enable her spirit to leave a mark on the world and prevent at least one more death, then I don't think that's a bad thing. And I'm not sure I understand why you're against trying to educate children about safety? Perhaps it's modern society's trend to leave the education and discipline of children up to their parents because some parents these days get their hackles up when others presume to tell them what to do. But parents DO fail. And the education system DOES fail. Not all the time, but sometimes. So it can't hurt to try harder to take care of children and help them prepare for adulthood even if they're not your biological children or your students... but especially if they're deaf children and potentially the future of the deaf community. I’m not quite sure I understand where you’re coming from. Sad but true to say, people often don’t recognize a problem until a tragedy occurs. Yes, maybe Tara McAvoy’s getting a lot of attention and some of it not good or skewed - i.e. media sensationalism. But that skewed attention will fade away sooner rather than later, and it’s her legacy to the world that remains to be determined.

Like I said in my blog, I knew Tara from YLC. She was a bright girl who had a lot of potential as a leader. Just because she died, does that mean her capacity for leadership has to die with her? I don’t necessarily think that a statistic is all she is to us now, after her death, and I truly do hope that people who knew her and know her passions will be able to carry on her spirit in many different ways. But if for some of us, her death can inspire us to be more conscientious about safety issues and enable her spirit to leave a mark on the world and prevent at least one more death, then I don’t think that’s a bad thing.

And I’m not sure I understand why you’re against trying to educate children about safety? Perhaps it’s modern society’s trend to leave the education and discipline of children up to their parents because some parents these days get their hackles up when others presume to tell them what to do. But parents DO fail. And the education system DOES fail. Not all the time, but sometimes. So it can’t hurt to try harder to take care of children and help them prepare for adulthood even if they’re not your biological children or your students… but especially if they’re deaf children and potentially the future of the deaf community.

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