Comments on: Davila, The Pride Of Gallaudet…And RIT/NTID, Too! http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:02:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Ben M http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88884 Ben M Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:15:47 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88884 I just went to gallynet-L.. it's what I thought it to be: a beehive of very political alums. Some of their opinions are interesting but aren't typical of the general community. I like Slemo's posts, tho. I just went to gallynet-L.. it’s what I thought it to be: a beehive of very political alums. Some of their opinions are interesting but aren’t typical of the general community.

I like Slemo’s posts, tho.

]]> By: Ben M http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88883 Ben M Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:24:45 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88883 Michele, with every leader, there's always criticism, whether deserved or not. Always a diversity of opinions. But "there are definitely undercurrents that would support such a protest"? Not even close- except in the case when a number of black students got understandably upset about Dunn's demotion. But really, as a whole, the community's completely sick of protesting. Nobody even talks about the 2006 protest anymore. I should know, I was a Gallaudet student last year. With due respect, being actually there everyday trumps reading things on the internet anytime. I'm sure there's at least a few on "ground zero" who disagree with my conclusions. I welcome their input. Michele, with every leader, there’s always criticism, whether deserved or not. Always a diversity of opinions. But “there are definitely undercurrents that would support such a protest”? Not even close- except in the case when a number of black students got understandably upset about Dunn’s demotion. But really, as a whole, the community’s completely sick of protesting. Nobody even talks about the 2006 protest anymore.

I should know, I was a Gallaudet student last year. With due respect, being actually there everyday trumps reading things on the internet anytime.

I’m sure there’s at least a few on “ground zero” who disagree with my conclusions. I welcome their input.

]]> By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88874 Joseph Pietro Riolo Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:57:15 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88874 Addendum: According to http://ims.gallaudet.edu/pdf/20070914-0003.pdf, the admissions standards at Gallaudet University will be raised to ACT score of 14 starting Fall 2008. To put this in perspective, that is the minimum ACT score for some associate degree programs at NTID. Joseph Pietro Riolo josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain. Addendum: According to http://ims.gallaudet.edu/pdf/20070914-0003.pdf, the admissions standards at Gallaudet University will be raised to ACT score of 14 starting Fall 2008. To put this in perspective, that is the minimum ACT score for some associate degree programs at NTID.

Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com

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]]> By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88873 Joseph Pietro Riolo Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:21:16 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88873 (Forgive me if this is duplicate. I posted my comment below last night but it did not show up, at least on my laptop.) To Mr. Chris Heuer and DeafSpook, The annual reports at http://www.ntid.rit.edu/media/annualreport.php contain a lot of information that you are looking for. To WAD, The enrollment reports at http://www.gallaudet.edu/x2294.xml include statistics on graduation and degrees that were granted but I have not found any information relating to job placement. To DeafSpook, While the number of bachelor's degrees granted by Gallaudet University is much higher than RIT (165 vs. 97 for the year of 2006), it is no secret that it is much easier to get a bachelor's degree at Gallaudet University than RIT. Each of RIT's colleges has its own admissions standards but the lowest admissions standard of all colleges except NTID is ACT composite score of 22 or SAT 1020 (critical reading and math) (source: http://www.rit.edu/~932www/pdfs/Prospectus.pdf). Gallaudet's admissions standard for bachelor's program is only ACT score of 13 in English or Reading and 13 in Math or SAT 310 in Math and 320 in Verbal (source: http://clerccenter.gallaudet.edu/tpd/news/janfeb05Connection.pdf, information from online forum). There is a strong relationship between the great discrepancy in admissions standards and the great discrepancy in degrees that were granted. Dr. Weiner claimed that the admissions standards were raised but I have not seen any concrete information about them yet (source: The Washington Post). Joseph Pietro Riolo josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain. (Forgive me if this is duplicate. I posted my comment below last night but it did not show up, at least on my laptop.)

To Mr. Chris Heuer and DeafSpook,

The annual reports at http://www.ntid.rit.edu/media/annualreport.php contain a lot of information that you are looking for.

To WAD,

The enrollment reports at http://www.gallaudet.edu/x2294.xml include statistics on graduation and degrees that were granted but I have not found any information relating to job placement.

To DeafSpook,

While the number of bachelor’s degrees granted by Gallaudet University is much higher than RIT (165 vs. 97 for the year of 2006), it is no secret that it is much easier to get a bachelor’s degree at Gallaudet University than RIT. Each of RIT’s colleges has its own admissions standards but the lowest admissions standard of all colleges except NTID is ACT composite score of 22 or SAT 1020 (critical reading and math) (source: http://www.rit.edu/~932www/pdfs/Prospectus.pdf). Gallaudet’s admissions standard for bachelor’s program is only ACT score of 13 in English or Reading and 13 in Math or SAT 310 in Math and 320 in Verbal (source: http://clerccenter.gallaudet.e.....ction.pdf, information from online forum). There is a strong relationship between the great discrepancy in admissions standards and the great discrepancy in degrees that were granted.

Dr. Weiner claimed that the admissions standards were raised but I have not seen any concrete information about them yet (source: The Washington Post).

Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain.

]]> By: Michele Ketcham http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88857 Michele Ketcham Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:45:34 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88857 Ben, GallyNet-L does have faculty/staff subscribers who make posts, as well as some students. Their frequency of postings changes from month to month. Nobody has said to protest because Davila isn't deaf enough...but there are definitely undercurrents that would support such a protest. I.e., there has been criticism of his signing style/quality, criticism on his ability to reduce racism on campus, etc etc. Ben, GallyNet-L does have faculty/staff subscribers who make posts, as well as some students. Their frequency of postings changes from month to month.

Nobody has said to protest because Davila isn’t deaf enough…but there are definitely undercurrents that would support such a protest. I.e., there has been criticism of his signing style/quality, criticism on his ability to reduce racism on campus, etc etc.

]]> By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88850 Joseph Pietro Riolo Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:49:25 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88850 To Mr. Chris Heuer and DeafSpook, The annual reports at http://www.ntid.rit.edu/media/annualreport.php contain a lot of information that you are looking for. To WAD, The enrollment reports at http://www.gallaudet.edu/x2294.xml include statistics on graduation and degrees that were granted but I have not found any information relating to job placement. To DeafSpook, While the number of bachelor's degrees granted by Gallaudet University is much higher than RIT (165 vs. 97 for the year of 2006), it is no secret that it is much easier to get a bachelor's degree at Gallaudet University than RIT. Each of RIT's colleges has its own admissions standards but the lowest admissions standard of all colleges except NTID is ACT composite score of 22 or SAT 1020 (critical reading and math) (source: http://www.rit.edu/~932www/pdfs/Prospectus.pdf). Gallaudet's admissions standard for bachelor's program is only ACT score of 13 in English or Reading and 13 in Math or SAT 310 in Math and 320 in Verbal (source: http://clerccenter.gallaudet.edu/tpd/news/janfeb05Connection.pdf, information from online forum). There is a strong relationship between the great discrepancy in admissions standards and the great discrepancy in degrees that were granted. Dr. Weiner claimed that the admissions standards were raised but I have not seen any concrete information about them yet (source: The Washington Post). Joseph Pietro Riolo josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain. To Mr. Chris Heuer and DeafSpook,

The annual reports at http://www.ntid.rit.edu/media/annualreport.php contain a lot of information that you are looking for.

To WAD,

The enrollment reports at http://www.gallaudet.edu/x2294.xml include statistics on graduation and degrees that were granted but I have not found any information relating to job placement.

To DeafSpook,

While the number of bachelor’s degrees granted by Gallaudet University is much higher than RIT (165 vs. 97 for the year of 2006), it is no secret that it is much easier to get a bachelor’s degree at Gallaudet University than RIT. Each of RIT’s colleges has its own admissions standards but the lowest admissions standard of all colleges except NTID is ACT composite score of 22 or SAT 1020 (critical reading and math) (source: http://www.rit.edu/~932www/pdfs/Prospectus.pdf). Gallaudet’s admissions standard for bachelor’s program is only ACT score of 13 in English or Reading and 13 in Math or SAT 310 in Math and 320 in Verbal (source: http://clerccenter.gallaudet.e.....ction.pdf, information from online forum). There is a strong relationship between the great discrepancy in admissions standards and the great discrepancy in degrees that were granted.

Dr. Weiner claimed that the admissions standards were raised but I have not seen any concrete information about them yet (source: The Washington Post).

Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain.

]]> By: WAD http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88805 WAD Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:43:09 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88805 Anyone know about CSUN and Gallaudet? Anyone know about CSUN and Gallaudet?

]]> By: WAD http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88804 WAD Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:39:43 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88804 Information copied from Deaf Digest 9/16/07: "...a machine shop with approximately 15 deaf NTID/RIT graduates being employed. And the starting entry level salary is between $45,000-$50,000 and that is just for graduates with Associate degrees." Information copied from Deaf Digest 9/16/07:
“…a machine shop with approximately 15 deaf NTID/RIT graduates being employed. And the starting entry level salary is between $45,000-$50,000 and that is just for graduates with Associate degrees.”

]]> By: WAD http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88803 WAD Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:34:04 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88803 1.) Kind of jobs of the graduates: Science and Engineering 29% Business 28% Visual Communication 16% Miscellaneous (Postal workers, teachers, socialworkers, counselors, maintenance workers) 27% 2.) BS (transfer after NTID’s associates) 6.3 years BS (transfer from NTID without associates) 5.5 years BS (direct entry) 4.8 years Calculated from the days he/she entered NTID to graduation day regardless of withdrawals or leave of absence 1.) Kind of jobs of the graduates:
Science and Engineering 29%
Business 28%
Visual Communication 16%
Miscellaneous (Postal workers, teachers, socialworkers, counselors, maintenance workers) 27%

2.) BS (transfer after NTID’s associates) 6.3 years
BS (transfer from NTID without associates) 5.5 years
BS (direct entry) 4.8 years
Calculated from the days he/she entered NTID to graduation day regardless of withdrawals or leave of absence

]]> By: Thor http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88802 Thor Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:41:12 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2007-09-18/davila-the-pride-of-gallaudetand-ritntid-too/#comment-88802 Academic standards? Liek what? DeafDigest never listed the top 10-20 deaf HS best students or a deaf honor rolls because to do well in school is to be "hearing". I was at Gallaudet in the 1980s. The incoming freshmen class were like 500 students. The day after HC, dropped to 100. Academic standards? Liek what? DeafDigest never listed the top 10-20 deaf HS best students or a deaf honor rolls because to do well in school is to be “hearing”. I was at Gallaudet in the 1980s. The incoming freshmen class were like 500 students. The day after HC, dropped to 100.

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