Comments on: An Analysis of Gallaudet’s Abortive Protest http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:55:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Diana OGrady http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-25121 Diana OGrady Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:15:57 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-25121 As a hearing person you are not limited in your ability to find work. Your taxes alone are not paying for this college. In fact many of the hearing people work on this campuse and benefit from its existence. Including the DC area. You have no idea the discrimination that comes to many of these unappreciative students as you refer to them as. So educate yourself , while out there watching. It seems to me there is a great deal of bias on the part of those who do not know how to communicate nor care to learn how to communicate with the deaf. Walk in their shoes before you cast judgement. Dont just watch try learning. It is critical to these students to keep open the few jobs available to them in the future , there are plenty of hearing jobs, hearing schools and opportunities for those who want to mainstream into the hearing world and those who are able. So why take the few spots away from those who are tryng to make it and have an equal footing., Give me a break. As a hearing person you are not limited in your ability to find work. Your taxes alone are not paying for this college. In fact many of the hearing people work on this campuse and benefit from its existence. Including the DC area. You have no idea the discrimination that comes to many of these unappreciative students as you refer to them as. So educate yourself , while out there watching. It seems to me there is a great deal of bias on the part of those who do not know how to communicate nor care to learn how to communicate with the deaf. Walk in their shoes before you cast judgement. Dont just watch try learning. It is critical to these students to keep open the few jobs available to them in the future , there are plenty of hearing jobs, hearing schools and opportunities for those who want to mainstream into the hearing world and those who are able. So why take the few spots away from those who are tryng to make it and have an equal footing., Give me a break.

]]> By: Diana OGrady http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-25117 Diana OGrady Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:05:48 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-25117 You are a fine example of why the Deaf view the hearing with such negativity. When referring to those of us who are hearing , please do not assume we are in agreement with you . When did we as Americans give up our rights to protest our views, this is a part of our freedoms. Perhaps, you need to go back and study up on your liberties as an American, and how and why they are in place in this country. In a world where there are limited jobs for the deaf, when hearing people are taking jobs that should be given to the deaf, who are qualified and still the job goes to the hearing person, the deaf community needs to take a stand and speak out. Students need to be heard , the deaf citizens just like all of us and are entitled to equal rights, when 82 percent of faculty are opposed to the installation of this President I want to know why she is there. Apparently, the committees assigned to the search process were not listening to the faculty and student of whom she serves. You make this a issue of race, your bigotry against the whites I assume this by your remarks regarding the assumed by your remarks of the clueless white population on the campus, sickens me. You should be terminated, how dare you refer to any student with such venom and disrespect. It is because of employees like you that the students are speaking out. My concerns are only deepened by what I am reading and by what is taking place on this campus. You threaten the students by making statements that you and others working on this campus will stop the students. You state and I quote, "Do you really think that the working men and women on this campus will indulges you little peckers much longer?" President King Jordan I demand you find out who this person is, you secure the safety of my students and all students on your campuses immediately. I suggest you stop fueling this fire, you are the man who years ago encouraged students to stand up and fight when the battle was to benefit you . How dare you allow this to continue now. I suggest you remember there are many parents, family members and friends on the outside looking in. Your jobs are paid by our tax dollars and we pecker head family members as you have so eloquently referred to us as, have prominent and substantial means to step in, if the need be. Do not use your position on that campus to threaten any of the deaf students on that campus. How dare you refer to the deaf students as "Deaf brain dead chimps". To have any employee on that campus earning a paycheck with a mind set as yours, tells me management is way off base, out of alignment with the wants of the students and the people. Mr Jordan perhaps you and MS JKF are no longer able to make decisions that can and will ensure the safety of our students. What is going on with employees like this on campus. I call on all families to become involved, contact your representatives, elections matter and its time to have outsiders step in. It is time to step up this fight and to step into the fight on behalf of our students and all deaf people. Support the school. NO MORE DIVISION.. How can any deaf person on that campus allow people to work there who have this mind set. Step up and support the students You are a fine example of why the Deaf view the hearing with such negativity. When referring to those of us who are hearing , please do not assume we are in agreement with you . When did we as Americans give up our rights to protest our views, this is a part of our freedoms. Perhaps, you need to go back and study up on your liberties as an American, and how and why they are in place in this country.

In a world where there are limited jobs for the deaf, when hearing people are taking jobs that should be given to the deaf, who are qualified and still the job goes to the hearing person, the deaf community needs to take a stand and speak out. Students need to be heard , the deaf citizens just like all of us and are entitled to equal rights, when 82 percent of faculty are opposed to the installation of this President I want to know why she is there. Apparently, the committees assigned to the search process were not listening to the faculty and student of whom she serves.

You make this a issue of race, your bigotry against the whites I assume this by your remarks regarding the assumed by your remarks of the clueless white population on the campus, sickens me. You should be terminated, how dare you refer to any student with such venom and disrespect. It is because of employees like you that the students are speaking out. My concerns are only deepened by what I am reading and by what is taking place on this campus. You threaten the students by making statements that you and others working on this campus will stop the students. You state and I quote, “Do you really think that the working men and women on this campus will indulges you little peckers much longer?” President King Jordan I demand you find out who this person is, you secure the safety of my students and all students on your campuses immediately. I suggest you stop fueling this fire, you are the man who years ago encouraged students to stand up and fight when the battle was to benefit you . How dare you allow this to continue now. I suggest you remember there are many parents, family members and friends on the outside looking in. Your jobs are paid by our tax dollars and we ****** head family members as you have so eloquently referred to us as, have prominent and substantial means to step in, if the need be. Do not use your position on that campus to threaten any of the deaf students on that campus. How dare you refer to the deaf students as “Deaf brain dead chimps”. To have any employee on that campus earning a paycheck with a mind set as yours, tells me management is way off base, out of alignment with the wants of the students and the people. Mr Jordan perhaps you and MS JKF are no longer able to make decisions that can and will ensure the safety of our students. What is going on with employees like this on campus.

I call on all families to become involved, contact your representatives, elections matter and its time to have outsiders step in. It is time to step up this fight and to step into the fight on behalf of our students and all deaf people. Support the school. NO MORE DIVISION.. How can any deaf person on that campus allow people to work there who have this mind set. Step up and support the students

]]> By: Ridor Needs to get a life http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-24793 Ridor Needs to get a life Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:35:28 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-24793 ]]> By: J http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-3484 J Sat, 13 May 2006 22:35:27 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-3484 Ridor, Do a few faculty members comments speak for all the faculty members? Did you poll all the faculty members to get their opinions or did you eavesdrop like a President Bush's anti-terrorist spy? Does a a few students dislike for Fernandes speak for all the students? Are did you eavesdrop on them too? I personally never had any problem at Gallaudet with the faculty or Fernandes-except her husband is a hard ass about proof reading, which has made me a better writer. The reason I think, personally many students go to Gallaudet is to experience Deaf culture and the center and education is secondary. It is possible to do both. We, members of the Deaf community need to strive to get the best education we can get to compete in the already tough in very competitive job market, unless you want to still claim your disability check from the government-even though we are not disabiled,"We can do anything, but hear." To get a job, you need an education. The point of why Jane is needed as the University President. Someone who is not afraid of ensuring we can be educated and the get the same jobs as students from George Washington University or Howard University are applying for. -J alumi of 2004 Ridor,

Do a few faculty members comments speak for all the faculty members? Did you poll all the faculty members to get their opinions or did you eavesdrop like a President Bush’s anti-terrorist spy? Does a a few students dislike for Fernandes speak for all the students? Are did you eavesdrop on them too? I personally never had any problem at Gallaudet with the faculty or Fernandes-except her husband is a hard ass about proof reading, which has made me a better writer.

The reason I think, personally many students go to Gallaudet is to experience Deaf culture and the center and education is secondary. It is possible to do both. We, members of the Deaf community need to strive to get the best education we can get to compete in the already tough in very competitive job market, unless you want to still claim your disability check from the government-even though we are not disabiled,”We can do anything, but hear.” To get a job, you need an education. The point of why Jane is needed as the University President. Someone who is not afraid of ensuring we can be educated and the get the same jobs as students from George Washington University or Howard University are applying for.

-J alumi of 2004

]]> By: Julie http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2061 Julie Thu, 04 May 2006 16:28:57 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2061 I have been watching the Deaf community slowly divide during past five years. Now we see it backfiring,because we are not unified. What is missing from this movement? In my opinion, it is wealth. Deaf people need to create their own wealth before we can have true power over GallaudetUniversity. I am talking about creating our own fat bank accounts including trust funds. I am talking about becoming philanthropists ourselves. Bernard Bragg is an excellent example of Deaf wealth. He donated money to both Gallaudet University and CSUN. But we do not have enough Bernard Braggs in this generation. We can change that for our next generation. There is a cycle of many Deaf people, including myself, graduating from Deaf schools or programs only to become teachers for Deaf children as comfortable source of income within our comfort zone of familiar environment. We need to challenge our young Deaf generation to seek wealth with new occupation roles and become philanthropists. With this wealth they have better chance to climb the ladder in our government system as congress members or Senators. This will have a great influence on Gallaudet University. Furthermore, with political power and wealth, the Deaf people will be able to run Gallaudet the way we see fit. Right now our mentality is that we have to fight the oppressor by rallying. It may bring short term attention. It is just a little fire to put out. I think the new generation of Deaf leaders needs to revaluate what is going on and invest their time to create true wealth and political powers. This is one way to truly break the plantation mentality in 30 years. This will break the plantation mentality. With new Deaf wealth, the Deaf young leaders will be able influence the government, which is full of paternalistic hearing fat cats with our wealth and political contacts. When this happens, the plantation mentality will disappear. There are very few Deaf leaders, besides Bernard Bragg, creating new wealth or are on the way to creating new wealth such as Rob Rice, Ben Soukup, Marlee Matlin, Ron Stern's children, David Smario, Greg Hlibok, Josh Mendelsohn, and the list goes on. We need more Deaf students to consider creating their own wealth. It will create a powerful, new Deaf generation. There is a great website called Deaf Professionals,www.deafprofessional.net, which is a wonderful tool for young Deaf people to find Deaf mentors and learn the ropes on how to create their own wealth. USA is a free county. Yes, we do have paternalistic attitudes going on, but we have the freedom to just keep going utilizing the laws such as ADA to create our own wealth, then we can take over Gallaudet as main source of funders and politicians, removing the paternalistic culture.It is up to us to make a difference in 30 years! Lets get off the plantation! Julie I have been watching the Deaf community slowly divide during past five years. Now we see it backfiring,because we are not unified.

What is missing from this movement? In my opinion, it is wealth. Deaf people need to create their own wealth before we can have true power over GallaudetUniversity. I am talking about creating our own fat bank accounts including trust funds. I am talking about becoming philanthropists ourselves. Bernard Bragg is an excellent example of Deaf wealth. He donated money to both Gallaudet University and CSUN. But we do not have enough Bernard Braggs in this generation. We can change that for our next generation.

There is a cycle of many Deaf people, including myself, graduating from Deaf schools or programs only to become teachers for Deaf children as comfortable source of income within our comfort zone of familiar environment. We need to challenge our young Deaf generation to seek wealth with new occupation roles and become philanthropists. With this wealth they have better chance to climb the ladder in our government system as congress members or Senators. This will have a great influence on Gallaudet University.

Furthermore, with political power and wealth, the Deaf people will be able to run Gallaudet the way we see fit. Right now our mentality is that we have to fight the oppressor by rallying. It may bring short term attention. It is just a little fire to put out. I think the new generation of Deaf leaders needs to revaluate what is going on and invest their time to create true wealth and political powers. This is one way to truly break the plantation mentality in 30 years. This will break the plantation mentality.

With new Deaf wealth, the Deaf young leaders will be able influence the government, which is full of paternalistic hearing fat cats with our wealth and political contacts. When this happens, the plantation mentality will disappear.

There are very few Deaf leaders, besides Bernard Bragg, creating new wealth or are on the way to creating new wealth such as Rob Rice, Ben Soukup, Marlee Matlin, Ron Stern’s children, David Smario, Greg Hlibok, Josh Mendelsohn, and the list goes on. We need more Deaf students to consider creating their own wealth. It will create a powerful, new Deaf generation. There is a great website called Deaf Professionals,www.deafprofessional.net, which is a wonderful tool for young Deaf people to find Deaf mentors and learn the ropes on how to create their own wealth.

USA is a free county. Yes, we do have paternalistic attitudes going on, but we have the freedom to just keep going utilizing the laws such as ADA to create our own wealth, then we can take over Gallaudet as main source of funders and politicians, removing the paternalistic culture.It is up to us to make a difference in 30 years!

Lets get off the plantation!

Julie

]]> By: gallysupporter http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2056 gallysupporter Thu, 04 May 2006 15:56:33 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2056 It occurs to me that future students of Deaf Studies will be asked to compare and contrast 1988's DPN and 2006's BPN. They'll look at the political reasons, discuss cultural ramifications, gnash their teeth over possible causes, and psychoanalyze each of the candidates within an inch of their lives. When the dust clears, they'll make the following discovery: Sour grapes. God bless whoever pulled Dr. Supalla's iron out of the fire. I can't even imagine what level of mudslinging our community would have subjected one of our finest scholars to. It occurs to me that future students of Deaf Studies will be asked to compare and contrast 1988’s DPN and 2006’s BPN. They’ll look at the political reasons, discuss cultural ramifications, gnash their teeth over possible causes, and psychoanalyze each of the candidates within an inch of their lives. When the dust clears, they’ll make the following discovery:

Sour grapes.

God bless whoever pulled Dr. Supalla’s iron out of the fire. I can’t even imagine what level of mudslinging our community would have subjected one of our finest scholars to.

]]> By: gallysupporter http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2055 gallysupporter Thu, 04 May 2006 15:41:39 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2055 Amused beat me to it. Gallaudet is a *university,* not a country. As with every other university and college in the United States, **you don’t get to pick the president of your university.** Please realize that this is not a democratic process here; you *don’t* really have a voice in this decision. It is a financially- and credibility-driven decision. You may not like the person, but, for the sake of decency and humanity, respect the office. If Ms. Fernandes is truly the incompetent ambassador and administrator you claim her to be, then let her fall on her face herself. Market economics is a wonderful thing. Selection committees do their job: listen to all voices and communities and then make the best decision for the university. Students do their job: complain and moan about everything under the sun, go to classes, get degrees and empowerment, and then go out to contribute to society. You say you want a better president? Then go *become* one. Frankly, most of you students haven't even *earned* the right to protest yet. The youngest Gallaudet 18-year-old freshmen were **born** in 1988, the year of DPN; if you are a senior this year, chances are you were five or six years old at the time. Grow up a little (er, a lot), pay your dues, and then come back and contribute to your university. Please stop assuming that every decision to be made revolves around you. "BPN" is a mockery of everything Gallaudet and the Deaf Community stands for. You may wish that "the world is watching" again. This time, however, the world is watching you self-implode with your backstabbing and whininess. This is not how you show the world that "Deaf people can do anything." Amused beat me to it.

Gallaudet is a *university,* not a country. As with every other university and college in the United States, **you don’t get to pick the president of your university.** Please realize that this is not a democratic process here; you *don’t* really have a voice in this decision. It is a financially- and credibility-driven decision. You may not like the person, but, for the sake of decency and humanity, respect the office. If Ms. Fernandes is truly the incompetent ambassador and administrator you claim her to be, then let her fall on her face herself. Market economics is a wonderful thing.

Selection committees do their job: listen to all voices and communities and then make the best decision for the university. Students do their job: complain and moan about everything under the sun, go to classes, get degrees and empowerment, and then go out to contribute to society. You say you want a better president? Then go *become* one.

Frankly, most of you students haven’t even *earned* the right to protest yet. The youngest Gallaudet 18-year-old freshmen were **born** in 1988, the year of DPN; if you are a senior this year, chances are you were five or six years old at the time. Grow up a little (er, a lot), pay your dues, and then come back and contribute to your university.

Please stop assuming that every decision to be made revolves around you.

“BPN” is a mockery of everything Gallaudet and the Deaf Community stands for. You may wish that “the world is watching” again. This time, however, the world is watching you self-implode with your backstabbing and whininess. This is not how you show the world that “Deaf people can do anything.”

]]> By: Amused http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2053 Amused Thu, 04 May 2006 14:50:15 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2053 Gallaudet Students: Please Grow Up!!!!!!! I work on campus and have been both annoyed and amused by the antics of a few self-involved spoiled little brats. Clearly Gallaudet students have way too much time on their hands. I have some news for you silly punks. In the real world, students get no say over who becomes a college president. None whatsoever. Please grow up and get a life! Attending a university like this is a privilege -- even to those who don't appreciate the privilege. But I guess some people just love to cause trouble. Ridor: Does using the term of insult "hearie" make you feel like a tough guy? Because it only makes you sound like a clown. There are numerous "hearies" on the Gallaudet campus whose sole job is to feed and wipe the asses of ungrateful munchkins like yourself. Do you make a point to insult every hearing person you come into contact with or just those who disagree with your lame "opinions." (From your posts, you're obviously no member of MENSA.) Yesterday, I saw an ugly girl in SAC wearing a T-shirt bearing an insulting likeness of the new president. She must be the same sort of moron who thought vandalizing the football field and trashing the homecoming hotel were funny ideas. And pulling fire alarms? Didn't that stop being "cool" in the third grade? Gally Apathy: Since when did trashing the campus translate into taking pride in Gallaudet? Gallaudet seems more like a reform school filled with brain-dead unruly chimps than a university of people intent on educating themselves. Do all deaf people disdain learning as much as you and your pal Ridor? After reviewing this blog, I have yet to see a single articulate cogent argument against the new presidential appointee. I HAVE, HOWEVER, OBSERVED THAT THE GALLAUDET STUDENT POPULATION IS MOSTLY WHITE AND CLUELESS AND PRIVILEGED AND CODDLED BEYOND BELIEF, SO I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THEY ARE MOSTLY BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT FERNANDES IS AN HIPANIC AND A WOMAN. I truly hope to see the full prosecution of the prime troublemakers, especially the no-dick who blocked the side entrance with a moving van this morning. Do you really think that the working men and women on this campus will indulge you little peckers much longer? I can assure you they will not. Gallaudet Students: Please Grow Up!!!!!!!

I work on campus and have been both annoyed and amused by the antics of a few self-involved spoiled little brats. Clearly Gallaudet students have way too much time on their hands.

I have some news for you silly punks. In the real world, students get no say over who becomes a college president. None whatsoever. Please grow up and get a life!

Attending a university like this is a privilege — even to those who don’t appreciate the privilege. But I guess some people just love to cause trouble.

Ridor: Does using the term of insult “hearie” make you feel like a tough guy? Because it only makes you sound like a clown. There are numerous “hearies” on the Gallaudet campus whose sole job is to feed and wipe the asses of ungrateful munchkins like yourself. Do you make a point to insult every hearing person you come into contact with or just those who disagree with your lame “opinions.” (From your posts, you’re obviously no member of MENSA.)

Yesterday, I saw an ugly girl in SAC wearing a T-shirt bearing an insulting likeness of the new president. She must be the same sort of moron who thought vandalizing the football field and trashing the homecoming hotel were funny ideas. And pulling fire alarms? Didn’t that stop being “cool” in the third grade?

Gally Apathy: Since when did trashing the campus translate into taking pride in Gallaudet? Gallaudet seems more like a reform school filled with brain-dead unruly chimps than a university of people intent on educating themselves. Do all deaf people disdain learning as much as you and your pal Ridor?

After reviewing this blog, I have yet to see a single articulate cogent argument against the new presidential appointee. I HAVE, HOWEVER, OBSERVED THAT THE GALLAUDET STUDENT POPULATION IS MOSTLY WHITE AND CLUELESS AND PRIVILEGED AND CODDLED BEYOND BELIEF, SO I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THEY ARE MOSTLY BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT FERNANDES IS AN HIPANIC AND A WOMAN.

I truly hope to see the full prosecution of the prime troublemakers, especially the no-dick who blocked the side entrance with a moving van this morning. Do you really think that the working men and women on this campus will indulge you little peckers much longer? I can assure you they will not.

]]> By: jo http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2029 jo Thu, 04 May 2006 08:15:40 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2029 WOW!! I feel badly for Jane Fernandes as I knew her pretty well when we were living in Honolulu. She may not be a "people" person but she certainly knows her stuff on her job as she got the school for the deaf and blind in Honolulu out of the hole and it is now successfully run with many students from the islands and other Pacific islands. Let us hope things will calm down before long. ILY Jo WOW!! I feel badly for Jane Fernandes as I knew her pretty well when we were living in Honolulu. She may not be a “people” person but she certainly knows her stuff on her job as she got the school for the deaf and blind in Honolulu out of the hole and it is now successfully run with many students from the islands and other Pacific islands.

Let us hope things will calm down before long.

ILY

Jo

]]> By: Gallyalum http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2017 Gallyalum Thu, 04 May 2006 04:10:58 +0000 http://www.deafdc.com/blog/adam-stone/2006-05-01/an-analysis-of-an-abortive-protest/#comment-2017 Yup. Sam has significant ADMINISTRATIVE experience and a long history of success in higher education. Yup. Sam has significant ADMINISTRATIVE experience and a long history of success in higher education.

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